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Can’t wait for my CT I do have a general question are superchargers typically at places that we can kill time with while she’s plugged in like store

Randy Spencer

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@Jerhilhol12, it depends on what you are doing. If you are filling your cold car because you are going on a long trip and want to start with 100% charge than you will be there a long time. If you are ON that trip and just stopping because the car told you to drop in and get a charge it can be very quick. Typically 15 min. for me, not enough time to get food during, so I will get food on the way to the charger and eat in the car.

The cT will not be as efficient as my TM3 LR RWD, so it may take longer to get enough energy to make it to the next charger, but with 250kW chargers becoming the norm and the bigger battery in the cT means it will spend more time at full power charging (my TM3 is only there until about 20% charge, max of 4 minutes before it starts to taper).

I don't spend much time at the Superchargers, they are just a means to an end. Doubt I have ever noticed much more than where is the closest toilet.
 
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It’s not just about the destination, it’s also about the journey!

That drives my wife nuts. 😁 Haven’t been on a lot of long drives. When we have stopped at a supercharger, we took the time to get out, stretch legs, use the restroom, grab snacks, etc. Before we knew it, I received notification the car was done. At no time did it feel like a sit-and-waiting-for-the-car ordeal.
 
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Not an owner yet but I’m curious about the superchargers do you just sit there and wait or is there typically some sort of distraction like stripmall and or restaurant
Superchargers are placed in all kinds of places. On my trips ... they are at Casino, Outlet Mall, a Gas station with a restaurant, a very nice strip mall with restaurants in a mountain place, a middle of nowhere, a hotel (with a closed restaurant), an office area that has everything closed off hours, etc.....
I hope you got the picture that there is no commonality for supercharger places (like EA at Walmart). It would be great if more businesses with fun and dining facilities have superchargers installed. Usually, yes, there is some place to go while supercharging, but the choice is sometimes quite limited, unfortunately.
 
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I spent a lot of time at Superchargers (50k miles) and I enjoy it. I usually sit in the car and play games on my mobile phone or watch a movie, and just recently been playing Cat Quest that came in firmware update. I would go walk around if it's by the mall or Target.

Superchargers are too slow for a quick stop n go and too fast to go to a sit down restaurant. What I do on road trips is buy food and eat it at the supercharger. I always stay longer than I need. What's another 5-10min since I've been there for 30min already. Sometimes I would charge to 100% so I can finish the movie. I'm in no rush.
 
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How many chargers will be able to charge the cyber truck with a trailer attached. I'm currently towing my trailer from Fl to Ky. It is 24 feet long stem to stern. Total length is 44 feet I've seen older and newer trucks tow small trailers and long large trailers. I don't know of too many people that would down jack a 25 to 40 foot trailer every time they have to charge. You may not even be able to leave your trailer in a lot to go to charge. The Cybertruck will be 20 feet long even with a 30 foot trailer you are at 50 feet long. Tesla needs to start building large pull through chargers. Instead of these chargers in small parking lots. If you can't charge it without down jacking a trailer it is going to turn alot of people off. I saw an old Ford pickup on I75 yesterday towing a large trailer like the one in the picture it just had 2 axles through Atlanta. I saw this same truck and trailer on I 75 near Ocala in the evening. I wonder what the range will be in 8 to 10 years with the cybertruck since the older ones will be cheaper. I would like a used Cybertruck in the 25,000 to 30,000 dollar range. When they are that old will they be able to still tow long distance without spending 15 to 20 thousand dollars for a new battery

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Randy Spencer

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They will need a LOT of chargers if you wanna tow that thing at highway speeds. You might not be a good candidate for the cT when it first comes out. Like those who wanna get a Tesla Semi should have a regular defined route that already has a Megacharger. I have watched towing videos for the Model X and that thing loses serious range when towing.

I do think that the cT will be able to use truck stop chargers that will be pull thru, and there already are some out there, like the original Manteca Supercharger. There are rumors that the cT will charge faster than normal, though we don't know if that will be a Megacharger plug on it, or two Supercharge plugs on each end of the vehicle so you can take two spaces at a Supercharger.

Sure will suck to try to charge the cT off a hotel J1772 overnight, probably be halfway full by dawn.
 
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I would love an electric truck 3/4 ton with a longbed and extended cab with 4 wheel drive. With a 350 to 400 mile towing range. Right now my truck is hooked up to a trailer. The trailer weight and load combined is close to 7000 lb with the bed full from front to back with around 700 pounds in it. I feel safer towing with a 3/4 ton than a half ton. Just my opinion. With a bed that I can put a cap on so the height is the same instead of the slant back. I have towed more weight with the truck. I know the cybertruck will be able to tow 14000 pounds but with tax and registration it is going to be close to 80 grand. I'm averaging around 4 to 5 hours before fillups. Occasionally less if I stop for food. That is traveling at around 60 mph with 35 inch tires I want to get a new truck next year, Tesla is going to make cheaper trucks but the range of them leaves a lot to be desired. Since I moved I'm farther away from things. A round trip to Home Depot is two hours' We have a 2020 Ranger. Yes I know but it is my so's truck. You can't put very much in the bed of that thing. Right now I'm in a hotel with no out door charging, Truck and trailer is too far far away in parking lot
 
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How many chargers will be able to charge the cyber truck with a trailer attached. I'm currently towing my trailer from Fl to Ky. It is 24 feet long stem to stern. Total length is 44 feet I've seen older and newer trucks tow small trailers and long large trailers. I don't know of too many people that would down jack a 25 to 40 foot trailer every time they have to charge. You may not even be able to leave your trailer in a lot to go to charge. The Cybertruck will be 20 feet long even with a 30 foot trailer you are at 50 feet long. Tesla needs to start building large pull through chargers. Instead of these chargers in small parking lots. If you can't charge it without down jacking a trailer it is going to turn alot of people off. I saw an old Ford pickup on I75 yesterday towing a large trailer like the one in the picture it just had 2 axles through Atlanta. I saw this same truck and trailer on I 75 near Ocala in the evening. I wonder what the range will be in 8 to 10 years with the cybertruck since the older ones will be cheaper. I would like a used Cybertruck in the 25,000 to 30,000 dollar range. When they are that old will they be able to still tow long distance without spending 15 to 20 thousand dollars for a new battery

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Hardly any in the US. There are not a lot pull through chargers. If you were in Europe (Norway I've noticed in particular) where they pull trailers a lot more, they are everywhere.
 
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Randy Spencer

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I feel safer towing with a 3/4 ton than a half ton.
I don't know trucks, but the difference is that one has four wheels and the other has six? That did make a difference on my Sprinters, going to six wheels even though they didn't make the vehicle wider, which means I can park with part of my RV hanging over the sidewalk.

I have read some descriptions of the Tesla as being in a netherworld between 1/2 ton and 3/4 because of how it is constructed and it's tow rating, but they certainly don't seem to be offering a version with six wheels, probably due to the range degradation that would engender.
 
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I think most brands have gone away from advertising their trucks as ½-ton or ¾-ton. Payload is a tricky thing to compare because most trucks now come in so many different configurations that the numbers are all over the place, between fuel and engine choices, gearing, and optional equipment. With that said, the current naming convention among Detroit products still follows the traditional breakdown: 1500 (or 150) for ½-ton, 2500 for ¾-ton, 3500 for 1-ton. There are full-size pickups without dual rear wheels in the 2500 category, like the Ram, which can pull 20K lbs, I think.

Given the CT's powertrain (and Tesla's track record), I'm guessing they will end up sticking with just three payload/towing capacity ratings, depending on the number of motors. It seems perfectly reasonable to expect a three-motor CT to be able to tow a 14K-15K-lb fifth wheel.
 
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