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LTE probably provides more than enough bandwidth for anything in a car. 5G bandwidth have other applications, sports stadiums, huge events, large crowds.
3G felt slow from day 1 in the Model S. Latency with any 3G technology (e.g. HSDPA) was an issue for interactive use, even when there was sufficient bandwidth. 4G/LTE has much lower latency, it's much nicer to use even when the extra bandwidth isn't needed. (Note the only real 4G is LTE, and any variant of LTE is 4G only, not 5G, do not believe AT&T's marketing lies about 4G and "5Ge." AT&T has a deep, deep culture of lying about their products and technologies.)"no reason anyone needs more than 3g in a car" and now it's being turned off because it doesn't work well enough and now people are trying to get their cars upgraded to 4g. That's the identical argument that occurred when 4g came out.
You were talking about upgrading from 4G to 5G, which will probably little to no real world benefits. That was what I responded to."no reason anyone needs more than 3g in a car" and now it's being turned off because it doesn't work well enough and now people are trying to get their cars upgraded to 4g. That's the identical argument that occurred when 4g came out.
Yes but everything you said doesn't require retrofitting 5G in our current cars. They will put 5G in the new cars when it's needed for the new stuff.I will say that if Tesla adds online FPS games with the Ryzen MCU, *those* are something that could plausibly benefit greatly from 5G. Also video conferencing can often benefit from further latency reduction, if Tesla ever adds an in-car camera for that. Same if the car adds a WiFi hotspot since that could be used for any application.
Basically there's only two major reasons I see for a 5G upgrade: Possible new applications/features that we don't even have (yet?), or eventual LTE sunset (a very long ways away I think). 5G can be useful but just slapping it onto a car right now would be minimal benefit.
Loading map data and images and talking to Tesla cloud backends? Sure 5G could improve that a bit but 4G (LTE) is truly good enough already for that. Early reports from Ryzen MCU owners even say map loading is faster. I believe they're only on LTE too, so the bottleneck for most of us with MCU1 and MCU2 is really the processor, not the modem/connection. (Especially MCU1. LTE upgrade was a big help there but it's still slower to load map data than MCU2 with LTE.)
If I recall correctly the MCU1 to MCU2 upgrade is $2000 or more, for a Model S. It does include LTE but loses AM and FM radio, FM can be preserved with an additional cost module. LTE upgrade only for MCU1 was $200-ish, I went with that option on my S instead.
Did Model 3 ever ship with MCU1? If so how much is the MCU2 upgrade for a 3? If I recall correctly the S upgrade includes replacement of both displays, so maybe the upgrade would be a little cheaper in a 3. Though I kind of doubt it, especially for MCU3
If MCU3 were $1000 or less I'd probably get it for both cars! However at $2000+ per car I'd probably skip it entirely for now. I'd like MCU3 but there's other things I'd rather spend that much money on.
For sure you can when the module is available. Just like LTE upgrade for the 3G cars that has taken place over the years (and is soon to be required). Of course, the reason now is , why
LTE probably provides more than enough bandwidth for anything in a car. 5G bandwidth have other applications, sports stadiums, huge events, large crowds.
@gnuarm It's up to you if you care about losing cellular connectivity before some theoretical 5G upgrade becomes available, which may never happen for these older cars. Many of us gladly upgraded to 4G / LTE.If you are paying for an upgrade, why upgrade to yesterday's technology only to see that abandoned in a few years?
When I bought my car no one said a word about 3G being obsoleted and removed from service. I monitor cellular tech and T-Mobile still supports 2G! So when can expect 4G to be terminated? I see various non-official sources saying, don't worry about it. But I see that Sprint has announced termination of 4G-LTE by June 30, 2022. Not sounding so good now is it?
@gnuarm It's up to you if you care about losing cellular connectivity before some theoretical 5G upgrade becomes available, which may never happen for these older cars. Many of us gladly upgraded to 4G / LTE.
The Sprint 4G / LTE turndown is just because of their merger with T-Mobile USA. There is no reason to keep operating two separate networks.
The sky isn't falling, network operators are simply moving on to efficiently utilize their available spectrum. As they should, else we'll never get good coverage with newer, faster cellular technologies.