Can anyone confirm/deny this?

[AMC7]

Just saw this article regarding range tests. Can anyone who’s taken delivery comment on the accuracy of this?

Test reveals that the range of Tesla's Model 3 is 90 miles less than claimed | This is Money

 

[ProfessorK]

90 miles less if you drive it like you stole it, which is what happens for the first month or two. I did with my Zoe, impressed with the torque.

 

[Ryder35]

Totally flawed test. They drive it for about 40 miles and extrapolate from there!

 

[james_power]

You see this all the time, the real answer is it all depends how you drive. If you drive like you stole it all the time, there is no way you'll get the range declared. You'll also only get the range advertised if you drive at the WLTP speeds (What is WLTP: the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure? | WLTPfacts.eu). In reality for normal driving at the speed limits it's going to be slightly less than advertised. In winter you'll get about 20% less range too.

Everyone gets really hung up on range, once you own the car though you soon realise that it's really not an issue.

 

[Fullerene]

YES! I can confirm this is worst on MSM, LR-AWD, Aeros, Black interior with Tow Hitch!!

Though I suspect this clickbait headline was just FUD from someone wanting to get a load of people to give up their place in the queue..

 

[Evoforce]

This article is a screwball piece. Even their own headline is a screw up and doesn't equate.

 

[TestPilot]

90 miles less!!! That's crap. My SR+ seems to be around 2 miles per 1 percent, so around 200 miles if I can stop myself flooring it off the lights.... Which I can't so a bit less

 

[MorrisonHiker]

It is well known that the faster you drive, the shorter distance you can drive. The slower you drive, the farther you can go. The Model 3 can be driven over 600 miles of you drive slow enough.

FYI, the same laws of physics apply to ICE vehicles as well.

 

[TestPilot]

It is well known that the faster you drive, the shorter distance you can drive. The slower you drive, the farther you can go. The Model 3 can be driven over 600 miles of you drive slow enough.

FYI, the same laws of physics apply to ICE vehicles as well.

It's complicated right?! Loads of factors. Stop-start traffic in the rain with the AC on warm then Watt Hours per mile goes up considerably.

 

[GHR1]

There have been many articles reporting on tests of the Model 3, almost all based on far more than 40 miles, and they all suggest much longer ranges than the What Car? review. I'm not worried at all! The way most of us drive we will find ranges not far short of the WLTP figures in summer, although quite a bit less in winter.

 

[interbear]

Well folks, feel free to believe the scare story BS and cancel your orders if it helps me get my Model 3 quicker

More seriously, range tests are about as worthwhile as a chocolate teapot as no test will exactly replicate your own driving style, conditions, environment and roads. Get you Model 3, experiment a bit with driving styles and only then will you know what average range you’ll get.

 

[Keeper]

The article has the bad smell of an organisation or media company that derives a lot of its income from advertisements from oil companies and major car manufactures. I would check out some of the blogs of Bjørn Nyland, who has undertaken a lot of analysis of S, X and 3 range capabilities and confirms that Tesla's predictions are generally correct.

Bjørn Nyland (@BjornNyland) | Twitter

 

[TampaRich]

Looks like someone took the clickbait.

 

[Durzel]

My i3 projected range jumps about depending on the conditions that I'm driving it in - e.g. at night with headlights on, wipers going, etc. Sometimes it doesn't move for several miles. I've even seen it go up while I'm actually putting miles on it.

I'll give Tesla the benefit of the doubt on this one.

 

[Roy W.]

My i3 projected range jumps about depending on the conditions that I'm driving it in - e.g. at night with headlights on, wipers going, etc. Sometimes it doesn't move for several miles. I've even seen it go up while I'm actually putting miles on it.

I'll give Tesla the benefit of the doubt on this one.

Projected range is calculated depending on how you’ve driven previously, and changes depending how you drive now. Adding more drain with heating or aircon will also reduce it.

The Leaf community used to refer to it as the “GOM”, standing for Guess-O-Meter

 

[Fraank]

The article has the bad smell of an organisation or media company that derives a lot of its income from advertisements from oil companies and major car manufactures. I would check out some of the blogs of Bjørn Nyland, who has undertaken a lot of analysis of S, X and 3 range capabilities and confirms that Tesla's predictions are generally correct.

Bjørn Nyland (@BjornNyland) | Twitter

Isn't 240mile about right for the P3+ in mixed driving? That result wasn't different to what I've seen owners saying, with others on TMC speculating the Tesla figure was achieved with 18".

 

[Durzel]

Projected range is calculated depending on how you’ve driven previously, and changes depending how you drive now. Adding more drain with heating or aircon will also reduce it.

The Leaf community used to refer to it as the “GOM”, standing for Guess-O-Meter

Yup. I wasn't saying it was inaccurate, moreover that if I got in to a fully charged i3 and drove it hard then I'd expect it to tell me quite quickly that the range is much less than what it's capable of doing.

That wouldn't mean that it's not capable of the advertised range though, which seems to be what this article is implying.

 

[WannabeOwner]

Just saw this article regarding range tests

If you aren't driving out of range then drive it like you stole it, if you want to. Leave home every morning with a full tank.

On days when you are driving out of range then some things apply, and they are very rarely considered in magazine range tests and are certainly not part of WLTP (which is a combined cycle test - useless for Range)

I assume I will be driving at 75 MPH on the motorway, with no traffic nor roadwork holdups. I will be driving from 100% down to somewhere below 20%, but rarely below 10%. Any start-off-penalty (cold soaked battery / cabin climate conditioning) will be averaged over that journey, and any climate I need for the journey will be at 75 MPH - so for relatively short duration and, as such, not use a lot of energy (per mile). Any shorter journey is a compromise on all those aspects and is never a good indicator of actual range. So ignore any extrapolated test ... if the tester can't be bothered to drive it "from full until empty" then ignore.

If range is tight for that constant 75-MPH journey chances are good that, in practice, I will hit traffic and/or roadworks, and that will increase my range such that "tight" becomes "comfortable". Worst case I will have no holdups and will need to slow down or make an extra charging stop.

Try your range challenged journey in A Better Routeplanner which has pretty good algorithm for accuracy

Bjorn's videos are useful, but all his tests are a bit on the slow side for UK driving, but he does do constant-speed (conditions permitting) on motorway, so useful comparison model-to-model and brand-to-brand.

 

[Darmie]

It's the same across the board. What a joke of a news article.

Here's Why Real-World MPG Doesn't Match EPA Ratings | Edmunds

 

[LEE3]

I wish Tesla would go after these FUD muppets legally. Unfortunately this tripe will resonate with so many people you end up personally responding to these claims for weeks after the article is written as everyone you speak to will remember some article about poor range.