Can Camp mode be used with environmental turned off?

[Webeevdrivers]

Hi folks. Kind of a funny camping mode question. There are times when we have a couple devices powered up by the 12 volt accessory plug for longer periods of time via our little 200 watt sine wave inverter. I used a "Kill A Watt" and it seems pretty consistent at round a 114 watt load. Car seems happy with it. I notice that the environmental system continues to run even if manual, fan 1, AC off is selected. We are many times not even in the car. It seems a waste to have that fan run. From what I can tell if you simply select off it also comes out of camp mode. (maybe I'm wrong) Is there a way to have continuous 12 volt at the Accessory plug without having it in camp mode.

And before anyone suggests it, I'm not going direct to the 12 volt battery as I'm pretty sure Tesla doesn't want that happening.

Thanks in advance all.

 

[Big Earl]

If you don't want HVAC but still want the 12 volt accessories to be powered, use Sentry Mode instead of Camp Mode.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

If you don't want HVAC but still want the 12 volt accessories to be powered, use Sentry Mode instead of Camp Mode.

Thanks, I'll give that a try. I wonder if it would use less energy in sentry mode as opposed to the fan running in camp mode. I know sentry mode can be kind of energy intensive as well. Although might be handy in camping situations.

 

[jmaddr]

Wonder if the car would freak out if you just attach leads from the battery to your inverter? Or if it would proactively top it off if the voltage drops too low since it’s such a small capacity battery? It should but I’d wanna test that.

 

[Big Earl]

Wonder if the car would freak out if you just attach leads from the battery to your inverter? Or if it would proactively top it off if the voltage drops too low since it’s such a small capacity battery? It should but I’d wanna test that.

I believe that's covered in this thread: MASTER THREAD: Powering house or other things with Model 3 12V battery

 

[Webeevdrivers]

I believe that's covered in this thread: MASTER THREAD: Powering house or other things with Model 3 12V battery

Yah, I saw that thread but its out of the scope of what I want to do. The Tesla supplied 12 volt accessory plug is sufficient for our needs and there is no chance of any warranty issues this way as we are using it as intended. Its more of an anal thing on my part. I can hear the fan running on the HVAC system and I know its kind of a waste. I'll try the sentry mode thing...once I figure it out. I think all I will have to do enable sentry at home. Not sure.

Cheers.

 

[Big Earl]

Yah, I saw that thread but its out of the scope of what I want to do. The Tesla supplied 12 volt accessory plug is sufficient for our needs and there is no chance of any warranty issues this way as we are using it as intended. Its more of an anal thing on my part. I can hear the fan running on the HVAC system and I know its kind of a waste. I'll try the sentry mode thing...once I figure it out. I think all I will have to do enable sentry at home. Not sure.

Cheers.

Yes - I was responding to the previous gentleman's question about connecting directly to the 12 volt battery, which the thread I linked suggests is not ideal.

 

[Gasaraki]

If I'm understanding the question correctly, I think it's because car tries to keep the 12V charged so it has to run the inverter from the main battery and trickle charge the 12V. It has to cool the inverter that's why the fan is on.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

If I'm understanding the question correctly, I think it's because car tries to keep the 12V charged so it has to run the inverter from the main battery and trickle charge the 12V. It has to cool the inverter that's why the fan is on.

That could be. It is specifically the HVAC internal fan I am referring to though. Not one of the external fans.

 

[Gasaraki]

That could be. It is specifically the HVAC internal fan I am referring to though. Not one of the external fans.

The issue is that if any of the doors or hood (bonnet) is open the car is considered ON, and the HVAC runs.

 

[Big Earl]

If I'm understanding the question correctly, I think it's because car tries to keep the 12V charged so it has to run the inverter from the main battery and trickle charge the 12V. It has to cool the inverter that's why the fan is on.

The fan is on because he's using camp mode, which runs the HVAC. He's asking about how to power his 12 volt accessories for an extended period of time without running the HVAC, to which my solution was to run sentry mode, which keeps the car's systems (except HVAC) running. The cabin HVAC does not cool the DC-DC converter.

 

[Gasaraki]

The fan is on because he's using camp mode, which runs the HVAC. He's asking about how to power his 12 volt accessories for an extended period of time without running the HVAC, to which my solution was to run sentry mode, which keeps the car's systems (except HVAC) running. The cabin HVAC does not cool the DC-DC converter.

After reading it again slowly I think i got the question now. However the 12V plug inside the car is always on already. It doesn't shut off I thought. That's why I have to set my radar detector to turn off after an hour because it is running off of that 12V.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

After reading it again slowly I think i got the question now. However the 12V plug inside the car is always on already. It doesn't shut off I thought. That's why I have to set my radar detector to turn off after an hour because it is running off of that 12V.

Hmmm. I'm not sure about that. I'll have to check again. But it seems to me in the past that after awhile the accessory plug powers down. As well, I'm not sure the DC to DC converter stays on keeping the 12 volt battery charged up if it the car is not "on". Time to play with it a bit when I get a minute.

 

[elptxjc]

The issue is that if any of the doors or hood (bonnet) is open the car is considered ON, and the HVAC runs.

Everything shuts off after about 15 minutes, including the 12V outlet. I know because I was installing the door seal kit on my car, with all doors open, listening to the radio. After about 15 minutes, heard a noise under the car, and the radio, radar detector, and screen all turned off. So the car does have a 'battery protection' mode, just like most ICE cars. I was happy to see that, since sometimes I want to leave doors open (when working on the car), without the stupid pump/fans running all the time.

To leave 12V on needs either sentry mode or HVAC on (on, dog, or camp mode). Of the 2, I'd set sentry mode on, and just not lock the car, and it shouldn't consume hardly any energy IMO, while leaving the 12V receptacle on. With HVAC on, A/C off, and fan on 1, energy consumption is probably pretty close to sentry mode, so take your pic. The only problem with sentry mode if you lock your car, is you could get the headlights and/or alarm triggered, so watch out for that.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

Everything shuts off after about 15 minutes, including the 12V outlet. I know because I was installing the door seal kit on my car, with all doors open, listening to the radio. After about 15 minutes, heard a noise under the car, and the radio, radar detector, and screen all turned off. So the car does have a 'battery protection' mode, just like most ICE cars. I was happy to see that, since sometimes I want to leave doors open (when working on the car), without the stupid pump/fans running all the time.

To leave 12V on needs either sentry mode or HVAC on (on, dog, or camp mode). Of the 2, I'd set sentry mode on, and just not lock the car, and it shouldn't consume hardly any energy IMO, while leaving the 12V receptacle on. With HVAC on, A/C off, and fan on 1, energy consumption is probably pretty close to sentry mode, so take your pic. The only problem with sentry mode if you lock your car, is you could get the headlights and/or alarm triggered, so watch out for that.

Excellent info. Never thought about the alarm. Hmmm.

 

[elptxjc]

Yeah, if you get close to the car, the headlights turn on. And if you get too close, the alarm can sound (haven't tried that yet. Ha ha). I don't remember if there's a way to disable that, so look into it. But even the headlights would be annoying for you and people around when it's dark outside.

 

[Webeevdrivers]

Yeah, if you get close to the car, the headlights turn on. And if you get too close, the alarm can sound (haven't tried that yet. Ha ha). I don't remember if there's a way to disable that, so look into it. But even the headlights would be annoying for you and people around when it's dark outside.

LOL. Yah not a good way to meet the neighbours.