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@FlasherZ/@jerry33 - can you confirm the source of your statements? At least one of the Tesla TechTalks stated that the front posts can be used both to jump the Model S, and as a source of power to jump ICE cars.
Point of clarification:as Jerry said, NEVER try to start the ICE while attached to the Tesla or you could cause damage to the Tesla.
Point of clarification:
Is it also a bad idea to attach your Tesla to a running ICE? (Or is the issue just while the ICE is being started?)
@FlasherZ/@jerry33 - can you confirm the source of your statements? At least one of the Tesla TechTalks stated that the front posts can be used both to jump the Model S, and as a source of power to jump ICE cars.
Interesting. I've had multiple situations in previous ICE vehicles where (a) my car wouldn't start (from dead) without the other car running (even after waiting 15 minutes or so) and (b) other car owners were not comfortable jumping my car without theirs running (for fear they would drain theirs).You are never supposed to connect any car while it's running. As far as I know, that's a safety practice rather than an electrical one.
Imagine that same poor sap if you could connect the full power of the Model S in its 400+ Volt Li-ion glory to his measly 12 Volt system! :scared:Imagine having an electric car with an 85 kWh battery and having to tell the poor sap with a dead ICE that your car doesn't have the capacity to boost it. :wink:
Interesting. I've had multiple situations in previous ICE vehicles where (a) my car wouldn't start (from dead) without the other car running (even after waiting 15 minutes or so) and (b) other car owners were not comfortable jumping my car without theirs running (for fear they would drain theirs).
as Jerry said, NEVER try to start the ICE while attached to the Tesla or you could cause damage to the Tesla.
If you follow the steps in jerry's quote here and the Model S doesn't wake up (enough to enable the 17", open the charge port, and/or enable tow mode) 10 minutes, what's the recommended approach to getting a Model S (with drained 12V) attached to a running ICE so that the process of waking up the Model S happens before the sun explodes?Once the cables are connected, you can start the donor car. It's just while making the connection that both should be off.
Imagine that same poor sap if you could connect the full power of the Model S in its 400+ Volt Li-ion glory to his measly 12 Volt system! :scared:
If you follow the steps in jerry's quote here and the Model S doesn't wake up (enough to enable the 17", open the charge port, and/or enable tow mode) 10 minutes, what's the recommended approach to getting a Model S (with drained 12V) attached to a running ICE so that the process of waking up the Model S happens before the sun explodes?
This is not always the case. Personal experience in 2012. Until the tow truck was running, we couldn't get the 17" to wake up and the charge port to open. Jump pack didn't work (~30 minutes), non-running truck (~10 minutes) didn't work. Running truck woke up the S in seconds.If the 12V system is dead in the MS, it should wake up the instant 12V is applied to its terminals, because the contactor will close and the DC-DC converter will immediately begin powering 12V electronics. It'll happen without the donor car even running.
I'm confused (but what's new) at what you're asking here - jerry's instructions were for charging an ICE with a dead battery from a Tesla Model S.
If the 12V system is dead in the MS, it should wake up the instant 12V is applied to its terminals, because the contactor will close and the DC-DC converter will immediately begin powering 12V electronics. It'll happen without the donor car even running.