Can someone with AWD-non P post a photo of the rear motor to see if it's actually smaller.

[Thomas Edison]

So we can know if it's just software limited or physically smaller.

 

[P85_DA]

@MXWing ...while your underneath getting that battery pack number ....

 

[ebmcs03]

Same size.

 

[MP3Mike]

I doubt they would change the case. But the internals could be different. If you go looking get part numbers...

 

[Knightshade]

Ingenerex or however you spell it says they’re all physically the same front AND rear, motors AND inverters

His post from reddit-

The physical inverter hardware is the same design, with the same components in all 3, only binning on the FETs and software loaded differ. Here are the 3 variants:

1. RWD single motor - This is a PMSRM using the inverter with the standard binning.
2. AWD non-performance - Same PMSRM in rear and short-stack Induction motor in front with standard inverter.
3. AWD performance - PMSRM in rear, but with "high sigma" binned inverter and set to 800A. Same Induction motor in front as base AWD using standard binning inverter.

 

[30seconds]

That a big power difference based on production variants of a single part. I believe it, but it means the AWD probably is being significantly throttled.

 

[ebmcs03]

That a big power difference based on production variants of a single part. I believe it, but it means the AWD probably is being significantly throttled.

Ya. And it means that motor will last forever. It’s not being stressed at all.

Should have got a AWD! =(

My Tesla will break before the AWD. LOL

 

[J1mbo]

How about this?

Ingineerix aka @Ingineer posted it yesterday:

 

[JeffK]

How about this?

Ingineerix aka @Ingineer posted it yesterday:

That one looks like a performance model, as listed in the title.

 

[MXWing]

@MXWing ...while your underneath getting that battery pack number ....

I might be capable of lifting up the Model S for kids if you want to know the battery pack and part number on one of those.

 

[J1mbo]

That one looks like a performance model, as listed in the title.

Elon stated that the Performance model and the AWD model both have the same front motor.

 

[JeffK]

Elon stated that the Performance model and the AWD model both have the same front motor.

But the title of this thread asks about the size of the rear motor on a non-performance model.

 

[Knightshade]

But the title of this thread asks about the size of the rear motor on a non-performance model.

Which is also exactly the same part on all three versions of the 3 per what ingineerix said and what the fact the d and p have the same vin letter indicate

 

[JPUConn]

Over under on Performance becoming a pay per use or post purchase option on Dual Motor 3’s?

Future revenue streams:
Premium connectivity subscription
EAP Subscription
FSD Subscription
Supercharger subscription
Performance subscription

....
Vehicle by class subscription (who needs to own?)

 

[JeffK]

Which is also exactly the same part on all three versions of the 3 per what ingineerix said and what the fact the d and p have the same vin letter indicate

The OP is looking for a photo if you've got one (to confirm this is the case).

I haven't seen a teardown of the AWD non-P by @Ingineer

 

[Trevor B]

So we can know if it's just software limited or physically smaller.

It's not always about the size

 

[Thomas Edison]

It's not always about the size

TMI
TMI
TMI
Na na na, I can't hear you.

 

[J1mbo]

The OP is looking for a photo if you've got one (to confirm this is the case).

I haven't seen a teardown of the AWD non-P by @Ingineer

If you watched the video I posted, and you believe what Mr Musk has said publicly about the two cars, then you have actually seen the AWD non-P motors.

 

[JeffK]

If you watched the video I posted, and you believe what Mr Musk has said publicly about the two cars, then you have actually seen the AWD non-P motors.

Regardless of what Elon said, the EPA docs show different output numbers for the rear motors. OP is likely looking for physical confirmation through a photo.

 

[J1mbo]

Regardless of what Elon said, the EPA docs show different output numbers for the rear motors. OP is likely looking for physical confirmation through a photo.

Can you tell me where to look on my laptop motherboard to see if the CPU has been underclocked?