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Can someone with AWD-non P post a photo of the rear motor to see if it's actually smaller.

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  1. Thomas Edison

    Thomas Edison Active Member

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    So we can know if it's just software limited or physically smaller.
     
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    @MXWing ...while your underneath getting that battery pack number ....:cool::p
     
  3. ebmcs03

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    Same size.
     
  4. MP3Mike

    MP3Mike Well-Known Member

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    I doubt they would change the case. But the internals could be different. If you go looking get part numbers...
     
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  5. Knightshade

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    Ingenerex or however you spell it says they’re all physically the same front AND rear, motors AND inverters

    His post from reddit-

    The physical inverter hardware is the same design, with the same components in all 3, only binning on the FETs and software loaded differ. Here are the 3 variants:

    1. RWD single motor - This is a PMSRM using the inverter with the standard binning.
    2. AWD non-performance - Same PMSRM in rear and short-stack Induction motor in front with standard inverter.
    3. AWD performance - PMSRM in rear, but with "high sigma" binned inverter and set to 800A. Same Induction motor in front as base AWD using standard binning inverter.
     
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  6. 30seconds

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    That a big power difference based on production variants of a single part. I believe it, but it means the AWD probably is being significantly throttled.
     
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  7. ebmcs03

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    Ya. And it means that motor will last forever. It’s not being stressed at all.

    Should have got a AWD! =(

    My Tesla will break before the AWD. LOL
     
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  8. J1mbo

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    How about this?

    Ingineerix aka @Ingineer posted it yesterday:

     
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  9. JeffK

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    That one looks like a performance model, as listed in the title. :p
     
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  10. MXWing

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    I might be capable of lifting up the Model S for kids if you want to know the battery pack and part number on one of those.
     
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  11. J1mbo

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    Elon stated that the Performance model and the AWD model both have the same front motor. :cool:
     
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  12. JeffK

    JeffK Well-Known Member

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    But the title of this thread asks about the size of the rear motor on a non-performance model.
     
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  13. Knightshade

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    Which is also exactly the same part on all three versions of the 3 per what ingineerix said and what the fact the d and p have the same vin letter indicate
     
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  14. JPUConn

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    Over under on Performance becoming a pay per use or post purchase option on Dual Motor 3’s?

    Future revenue streams:
    Premium connectivity subscription
    EAP Subscription
    FSD Subscription
    Supercharger subscription
    Performance subscription

    ....
    Vehicle by class subscription (who needs to own?)
     
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  15. JeffK

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    The OP is looking for a photo if you've got one (to confirm this is the case).

    I haven't seen a teardown of the AWD non-P by @Ingineer
     
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  16. Trevor B

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    It's not always about the size ;)
     
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  17. Thomas Edison

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    Na na na, I can't hear you.
     
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  18. J1mbo

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    If you watched the video I posted, and you believe what Mr Musk has said publicly about the two cars, then you have actually seen the AWD non-P motors.
     
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  19. JeffK

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    Regardless of what Elon said, the EPA docs show different output numbers for the rear motors. OP is likely looking for physical confirmation through a photo.
     
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    Can you tell me where to look on my laptop motherboard to see if the CPU has been underclocked?
     
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