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Can you make the falcon doors less conservative?

acal

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Apr 2, 2018
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Santa Clara, CA
We put down a deposit Saturday. Had a 'garage test' w/ an X today. The garage is a bit tight.

The falcon doors on one side didn't open very far. I think the issue is that the other car was kinda close. When it stopped there was nothing within at least 12". If it'd been willing to get a bit closer I think it could have opened all the way up...or nearly.

Is there a setting for this? Is it possible to tell it I'm ok w/ the doors getting as close as....6" to some obstacle? I know you can manually override the door opening and then set it to always go to that - but my understanding was that this totally disables the obstacle checking and that seems like a bad idea.
 

Kano

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Feb 13, 2018
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For what it's worth this happened to me the other day in a parking garage. I pushed the door open button again from inside the car (the one by the second row seats) and the door opened a bit more. Not sure if this is a feature as I haven't had a chance to test it again.
 

ToddS

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Jan 13, 2017
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Although Outie has more experience than me, you can assign a location where the doors ignore any problems overhead (not sure about the side sensors). Then the doors remember that you want them to open fully at that location and they will repeat it. Admittedly, I don’t use this feature, so I can’t comment on how well it works.

Also, as Kano said, you can always override the sensors from inside the car (screen) if you trust you have space.
 

mathwhiz

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Feb 6, 2014
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Orange County California
Yes, there's a setting to 'open fully at this location' but, the doors will still stop (variably) short if an obstacle is detected. It is as the OP described, the car being 'conservative' in a situation where, rather than strike something, they'd rather you manually override the door height while standing in direct observation... IMO it's not a big deal, perhaps a minor annoyance... There is no permanent override.
 

outie

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May 22, 2016
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Although Outie has more experience than me, you can assign a location where the doors ignore any problems overhead (not sure about the side sensors). Then the doors remember that you want them to open fully at that location and they will repeat it. Admittedly, I don’t use this feature, so I can’t comment on how well it works.

Also, as Kano said, you can always override the sensors from inside the car (screen) if you trust you have space.
Should’ve been more clear. You can’t change the sensitivity of the sensor as OP requested.

However by setting the doors to always open fully does not disable the sensors altogether, only the top sensor. All the other sensors will still detect obstacles. This function doesn’t help in OP’s situation because it’s the side obstacles making the door not open.
 
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HadoukenZR

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Jul 27, 2017
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I had this exact question since I just picked up my MX last week.

The FWD's has no issues fully opening in my garage and I set the option to always fully open in that GPS location but it always open 3/4 of the way due to either the other parked car or the garage ceiling.

Kind of annoying so always having to over-ride and hearing that loud sound each time.
 

acal

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Apr 2, 2018
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Santa Clara, CA
It is as the OP described, the car being 'conservative' in a situation where, rather than strike something, they'd rather you manually override the door height while standing in direct observation..

but you can manually override? like...grab the door and push? How do you do that? (for example...from outside the car, if you're getting in)
 

Pdkj

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Nov 29, 2016
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You can reach in once the door has partially opened and override using the door controls on the B pillar as well. Avoids having to get in the car to use the center display.
 
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HugoBoss

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Aug 4, 2017
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Holding down the door open button on the pillar is best. You can keep an eye on the door as it's going up. Harder when holding touch screen. Let go when you reach desired spot. Kind of annoying but that's how it's designed
 

acal

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Apr 2, 2018
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Santa Clara, CA
ok. well..that's handy. assuming you can get to the b-pillar. If you're coming from behind and trying to get in then to reach the b-pillar you'd have to duck under the door anyway. oh well.
 

boaterva

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Apr 2, 2016
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Actually, once you override at a location, the FWDs can be set to always open higher there (like the trunk, same thing):

page 8 of current Model X manual (PDF):

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Aljohn

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Oct 17, 2014
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I would not recommend setting the FWD to open fully at this location in your Garage. After many software changes and opening iterations, Tesla decided (along with early owners' feedback) to implement the conservative settings. There are many long-buried threads of the over head pipes, beams, post, trees and other unnoticed things damaging early FWD. So Tesla changed to the current software and Tesla said: If they are in Auto, they will sense things and not open fully. Any changes or opening afterwards is NOW the owner's $10,000 responsibility.

My left side is only 12 inches from my garage wall. After the doors open on AUTO, I pull and hold the opening lever --- holding the leaver causes the doors to open slowly. Just release the lever when they are at the max/safe for the location. Pulling and releasing the lever will cause them to open an normal speed. Patience!

My service adviser explained that after all the updates, if there is an overhead obstruction, the FWD settings will remember that location, and will assume the obstruction remains present withing that GPS proximity --- i.e.: if the X is in the garage, and you open the doors and it senses an obstruction above (top sensor), it will still assume that obstruction exist even if you merely pull out to the drive way 10 feet away. It assumes the GPS position hasn't changed significantly. All are in place to prevent accidental damage to the FWD. Conversely, if you set to open fully in the middle of the garage, and move/park the X to (lets say) a position a foot away under your garage door opener, it may still recall you said OPEN FULLY at this GPS position (can't recognize a foot).

Therefore, is it not a great idea to automatically press open fully unless it is clearly in an clear open spot with in a discernible GPS location. It has been over a year, since the FWD damage and mishaps threads have long since gone to the depths of pages no longer read. Let's no resurface them. Again, PATIENCE!!!
 

Cosmacelf

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The manual over-ride is really annoying in that it emits a really loud beep invariably right next to my ear. I hate it. I actually don’t like the Falcon wing doors and this is just one of the many reasons.
 

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