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Canada - FSD rollout
With my M3P in service for two weeks, I'm starting fresh on a second M3. Any certainty if I use AP almost exclusively - almost zero manual - do I get the same credit for what I expect will be a 100 score after 7 days? Or will some manual give me more credit?
I'm guessing they see more than what we see - i.e. total miles driven, how much manual, instances of braking, true seriousness of infractions, etc.
I'm guessing they see more than what we see - i.e. total miles driven, how much manual, instances of braking, true seriousness of infractions, etc.
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Here is a counterintuitive but (I believe) true thing: you would have been better off just parking your car and not driving it again until tomorrow. I figured this out when I had a forward collision warning (plus hard braking event) that brought my daily score down to 31 (!) for that one day. The reason for this is that your daily score's contribution to your overall score is weighted by number of kilometres driven, but -- and this is the crucial part -- the FCW percentage is capped at a max of 63.3.
So your 50 km of perfect driving, by increasing the number of kilometres you drove today, increased today's weight in the overall total score. The same 50 perfect kilometres tomorrow would have added weight to a day when you have a 100 score; instead, they added weight to your current day, which is probably sitting at 94 if you had no other adverse scoring events.
The reason the 63.3 cap is important is that you only get the benefit of that cap if you drive very little on that day. To take my example, on my 31 score day, I drove 8 km and had one FCW, which works out to an FCW score of 125 per 1,000 km. Since it was capped at 63.3, it had less than half the impact that it "deserved" in the formula. By scoring 100 on many more kilometers the next day, I reduced the damage to my overall score.
The lesson here is that if you have a bad day, but its badness is limited by the caps build into the formula (see the FAQ for the caps applicable to each factor), it seems that you are better off just parking your car for the day and adding good kilometres tomorrow rather than trying to fix it today.
All that said, I'm sitting in Toronto at 99 on 1,715 km and getting very tired of thinking about this stuff.
omg.. maybe this is why we haven't seen anyone in Kitchener/ Waterloo get FSD Beta..
our shtty LRT strikes again!
our shtty LRT strikes again!
Wow ..that's quite informative.. it did drop my overall score from 100 to 99 immediately.. so I thought to drive it off just as you would for any other heartbreaking penalty.... Well I've already done a lot of driving today so we will see how this all plays out... I'm also not overly concerned because I have a bad feeling it'll take another couple of weeks before I get my update since I have a legacy X.
M109Rider
Active Member
Ah man,
So is there any point in staying in the program at this point in our region.
I’ll wait another few days, and maybe opt out for now.
With Karpathy on sebatical, could be a while.
What is very unclear about this is whether this means that we Torontonians won't get FSD for the time being, or if we'll get it (if we otherwise would) but won't be able to use it downtown. This makes a huge difference to those of us wanting to stop worrying about safety scores for a while.
So here's my big question: has anyone in the exclusion zone gotten FSD yet?
I am in the same boat. I called Tesla and the cameras are not in until later this year.
Tesla Autopilot 2.0 owners need a camera upgrade before getting 'Full Self-Driving Beta'
Elon Musk confirmed that owners of Tesla vehicles who bought the Full Self-Driving (FSD) package on cars with Autopilot 2.0...
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Seems a bunch of us on 2022.8.2 are not able to get a score.
Anyone with 2022.8.2 have working scores?
I am dying inside...why would they allow us to get it via safety score, if we aren't even capable in the first place..I am in the same boat. I called Tesla and the cameras are not in until later this year.
Tesla Autopilot 2.0 owners need a camera upgrade before getting 'Full Self-Driving Beta'
Elon Musk confirmed that owners of Tesla vehicles who bought the Full Self-Driving (FSD) package on cars with Autopilot 2.0...
But thanks for the post....had no idea.. I'm going to call service tomorrow to confirm...then I will look forward to returning to stress free driving.
Quick question to anyone who might know, if I eventually qualify for the beta program and then rent my car out with Turo, will I be able to disable it for another user?
pcons
M3 AWD+
No quick way...to go from 99 to 100 you need the total to be below 0.2%....thats basically 1 per 10,000 km.
You maybe didn't get a warning because you have fwd collision alerts set to off so the car won't make a noise at you, but the safety score would still do it.
I'm at 99 for the same reason. Idiot driving in front of me caused it last week and j went from a solid 100 to 99 and I'll need to drive like 8k km to get back to 100.
pcons
M3 AWD+
Wait patiently grasshopper2022 MYLR, the car software was updated to 2022.8.2 on Friday and I opted in right away. I drove about 170 kms yesterday in 4 trips but still don't see the safety score on the app. Can someone tell me what to do?
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