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A CHAdeMO in Magog, QC is now on plugshare, though it will not be available until tomorrow. I will be using it to top-up between Drummondville and West Lebanon when it is -10C or colder.

We thought it would be an adventure to take our Model 3 from Toronto to Halifax. Various websites showed Tesla superchargers as far as Riviere du Loup, Quebec, and then third party chargers at intervals as far as Halifax. Each one of those third party chargers had both a level 2 and a level 3 charger, and the level 3 chargers were reported to have a combination of Cha de Mo and J1772 fittings. I checked and determined that the adaptor that Tesla had provided was a J1772 adaptor. So good to go, right?

We charged along the way and then overnight in Riv du Loup, and stopped at the first of the third party chargers, so that, if necessary, we would have enough charge to get back to the last known Tesla charger. Neither of the fittings on the level 3 charger would fit the Tesla. We called Tesla customer service who said that there were no adaptors available, and if they were available, they would not work on the Model 3. The only option, other than driving back 125 km to R.d.L, was to charge at the level 2 charger at the rate of 35km per hour. This at a location with a gas station and a coffee shop but no hotel! What were they thinking?

We took the first option, drove back, parked the Tesla, and rented a gas guzzler for 10 days. All that cost us about $600 and 5 hours of our time.

Here are my beefs. 1) Whoever decided on the fittings for the 3rd party chargers needs their head read, They have ignored the EVs that outnumber all others combined. 2) Whoever decided on the locations needs their head read. Outside a hotel, it would make SOME sense, but to put a level 2 charger on a lonely stretch of highway??? In fact in 10 days of travel, we saw lots of 3rd party chargers, BUT NEVER ONE IN USE! 3) How can there be two types of J1772 fittings - one that the Tesla adaptor fits and one that it will not? The ones we saw had a circular shape with 3 larger pins and two smaller pins that looked like our adaptor could fit into it, but connected to that was another oval shape with two more pins, and that oval prevented our adaptor from docking.

MORAL OF THE STORY Don't trust 3rd party chargers and don't try driving to the Maritimes until later in 2018 when Tesla should have chargers along the Trans Canada Highway.
 
I'm sorry you had this unfortunate experience. Tesla needs to get their act together and enable the use of CHAdeMO adaptors.

As for J1772.. you are mistaking the fast DC version which adds dedicated DC pins, that is the newer of the charging standards.

SAE J1772 - Wikipedia

Tesla has yet to make an adaptor for these.

Thanks for the reply and the link to Wikipedia. It seems that the extra two pins are for cars that allow DC charging as well or instead of the one phase AC charging that Tesla uses. Thus the term CCS which stands for Combined Charging System.
According to Wikipedia, Audi, BMW, Daimler, Ford, General Motors, Hyundai, Porsche, Volvo, and Volkswagen use this standard, and thus we may see plenty of use of this standard if these manufacturers ever get their EVs onto the market in any numbers.
I can foresee an adaptor for Tesla that would have the round + oval shape of the CCS fitting but would have dummy pins where the two DC pins are located.
Hopefully soon!
 
I can foresee an adaptor for Tesla that would have the round + oval shape of the CCS fitting but would have dummy pins where the two DC pins are located.
Hopefully soon!
No, there is no point to making the adapter as you describe. The stations that have the DC extension don't have the AC pins. They are mutually exclusive. The fact that the Tesla adapter physically didn't fit made it obvious that it would not work. Making it physically fit but have dummy pins would be worse because it would seem like it would work, but it wouldn't actually charge.

The better argument is that Tesla should make a proper DC Fast Charge CCS adapter. Now that high power stations (above 50kW) are being installed, they might do it. Don't hold your breath waiting for it. It is widely expected that they will make the existing CHAdeMO adapter work with the Model 3. The schedule is unknown, so don't hold your breath for that one either.
 
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If anyone isn't sure about charging please ask somewhere on this forum. This can avoid a lot of unpleasant experiences like renting a gas guzzler in RDL.

As long as the Model 3 can't use CHAdeMO and Tesla doesn't add any Superchargers, a Model 3 that wants to reach Halifax from Ontario has two choices:

1) Go through Maine. Top off in Brewer. From there one can reach Aulac with at most a meal break to charge at someplace in Saint Stephen or Moncton.

2) Go though Riviere-du-Loup, but overnight somewhere between Edmundston and Woodstock.

Also, if you have to use L2 charging, try to find units that offer 48A (the max accepted by the Model 3) that will add 55 kph instead of the 35 kph obtained from a 30A station. Plugshare and forum-members can help you find the 48A units
 
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If anyone isn't sure about charging please ask somewhere on this forum. This can avoid a lot of unpleasant experiences like renting a gas guzzler in RDL.

As long as the Model 3 can't use CHAdeMO and Tesla doesn't add any Superchargers, a Model 3 that wants to reach Halifax from Ontario has two choices:

1) Go through Maine. Top off in Brewer. From there one can reach Aulac with at most a meal break to charge at someplace in Saint Stephen or Moncton.

2) Go though Riviere-du-Loup, but overnight somewhere between Edmundston and Woodstock.

Also, if you have to use L2 charging, try to find units that offer 48A (the max accepted by the Model 3) that will add 55 kph instead of the 35 kph obtained from a 30A station. Plugshare and forum-members can help you find the 48A units
Mostly these are Clipper Creek and Tesla HPWCs.
 
Sun Power chargers are also in the area, using the standard J1772 at up to 80 amps. It’s not a quick charge, but it will top you up.

Tesla really DOES need to get the Model 3 Chademo enabled. It’s a necessity throughout too much of Canada.
 
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PEI is apparently going ahead with six DCFC installations. The article in French says $730,000 for six stations. Tesla could install 20 stations for that price. :)

Not mentioned in the article, but Ottawa is probably contributing $50,000 per station, as they did in NB and in NS.

Budget d'immobilisation de l'Î.-P.-É. : des millions pour les routes, rien pour l'école Évangéline | ICI.Radio-Canada.ca

Edit: At each of the six sites there will be one CCS/CHAdeMO and two Level 2 units. Exact locations and timing are pending.
 
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A little off topic, but funny so thought I’d share. A CCS Charger in Quebec is getting relatively bad reviews and some people on PlugShare love to show it
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lol :p stupidity at its’ best. Someone must’ve forgotten where his charge port was, this is so funny!

They should be towed and fined. Having the CHAdeMO pistol needlessly out of its holster allows moisture to penetrate and could cause problems for the next person to recharge. But, more than that, it appears like the person just wanted to park there and didn't care that they were preventing other people from charging.
 
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It appears that there is new CHAdeMO at the Garcelon Civic Center, 22 Budd Ave, St Stephen, NB E3L 1E9. Just a stone's throw from Maine (literally, for those of you with strong arms).

It shows up on the FLO map as being at FLO headquarters in Sainte-Foy, QC, though. Maybe it's destined for NB, but it still being tested at FLO's labs, maybe the map is just wrong (I have reported the anomaly to FLO).

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