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Can't leave car at airport... battery dies

Akikiki

A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
Nov 26, 2012
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4,452
Kaneohe, HI
What else do we have - huh? Take away our gloating and all we have is perfect weather every day (74 right now), virtually no traffic compared to LA. NYC, D.C.,or SF. We wear shorts year round. Never wear a jacket.

We can't do road trips that consumes a full battery? I've driven all day and still have 70 miles when I got home.

And we don't have a Gibson's. (Send me some barbecue)
 

ozweepay

Member
Jul 16, 2015
208
35
Boulder, CO, USA
I don't know if I have Smart Preconditioning, weekend mode, be-nice-and-don't-strand-me mode, or whatever. I really have expected (hoped?) that Telsa's default configuration would not be to drain from 220mi to 40mi in two days. I charged all the way to 268mi (maxed out battery) knowing that it had trouble keeping charge, but it didn't matter.

Anyway, I'm in the airport now, flying home to Denver. I guess we'll see if I'm taking a 1am Uber! :)
 

DarkMatter

Active Member
Jul 13, 2016
1,126
870
Olympia, WA
The default doesn't leave the heat on, or do smart preconditioning. It's a really nice sounding feature, though, and it doesn't warn you when you turn it on that it might result in high power drain in cold weather.
 

ccdisce

EBISU like
Sep 10, 2014
223
96
Georgia USA
I don't know if I have Smart Preconditioning, weekend mode, be-nice-and-don't-strand-me mode, or whatever. I really have expected (hoped?) that Telsa's default configuration would not be to drain from 220mi to 40mi in two days. I charged all the way to 268mi (maxed out battery) knowing that it had trouble keeping charge, but it didn't matter.

Anyway, I'm in the airport now, flying home to Denver. I guess we'll see if I'm taking a 1am Uber! :)

Since I have been updated from 2017 42 to 2017 50.2 I have found the car to be running 'camper mode' twice in my absence while the car was plugged in charging in the garage.

The first time I estimate that it was running 'camper mode' or 'smart preconditioning' for about 6hr before I went out to set up HomeLink for the garage door, I found camper mode ON so I set it to OFF.

The second time happened 2 days when I went out to check a USB stick that I was preparing to use a road trip it was back into camper mode again...argh what is going on with this new load?, is it the lump of coal that the Santa load brought because I was a bad boy?

After reading Tam's post I went out and checked smart preconditioning and sure enough it was ON. So I am blaming it on Smarty Pants who is like a dog waiting by the door with the leash in his mouth ready to go for a (drive) walk.
 
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ozweepay

Member
Jul 16, 2015
208
35
Boulder, CO, USA
Well, I am home. Landed last night around 12:30am and the car showed that snowflake icon on the battery display (Donner Summit Mode?). When I got to the car, the display immediately said, "Very Low Battery" which I'd never seen before. It showed 26mi of range remaining and it was 21F outside. This meant a mandatory trip to the supercharger (which unfortunately is not on my way home).

I figured the 8 mi trip to the supercharger was not risky with 26mi of range, so I drove normally (i.e., turned on the heat, drove at 70mph in a 65) but after 4mi I looked down and saw that I had 12mi remaining! My 4mi drive had consumed 14mi of rated range and I still had 4mi left to go! I really didn't want to be stranded at 1am in cold weather... so I slowed down to about 50mph and turned off everything. No heat, no seat heater, not even the radio. The car began driving different... I could feel the responsiveness decline as it went into some other mode attempting to not die.

I reached the supercharger with 4mi left on the battery. Strangely, after 5min of charging, I got up to 5mi of charge. After another 5mins it was 15mi of charge. The car said "supercharging" but was charging at a rate of 27mi per hour of charge. I have used superchargers before and usually it's 200+ miles for each hour. Perhaps the cold? Perhaps the depleted state of my battery? After about half an hour, it was up to 140mi per hour, and the car had 100mi of charge so I could make it home.

Home at 2am. Exhausted.

I won't be taking my Tesla to the airport any more... it's too risky
 

MP3Mike

Well-Known Member
Feb 1, 2016
14,978
31,851
Oregon
I reached the supercharger with 4mi left on the battery. Strangely, after 5min of charging, I got up to 5mi of charge. After another 5mins it was 15mi of charge. The car said "supercharging" but was charging at a rate of 27mi per hour of charge. I have used superchargers before and usually it's 200+ miles for each hour. Perhaps the cold?

Yep, when the battery is that cold it has to charge slowly while it warms the battery and speeds up once the battery is up to temperature.
 

Akikiki

A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
Nov 26, 2012
6,324
4,452
Kaneohe, HI
Well, I am home. Landed last night around 12:30am It showed 26mi of range remaining and it was 21F outside. This meant a mandatory trip to the supercharger (which unfortunately is not on my way home).
After about half an hour, it was up to 140mi per hour, and the car had 100mi of charge so I could make it home.
Home at 2am. Exhausted.

ozweepay, glad to hear you made it home. Glad too that your S is some safely too.
 

islandbayy

Active Member
Feb 25, 2013
2,644
1,015
Greendale, Wisconsin
Did you happen to check the app to see if some of the 40 miles were locked away in the blue "snowflake" portion of the battery?

As far as warranty, your car isn't 8 years old yet is it? So the battery should still be covered.
no snowflake. bumper to bumper is over. battery warranty is good yet for 6 1/2 years, but if it's not battery related it could get expensive real fast, though, with how fast my 90 is degrading, who knows. im down 22 rated miles in 1 1/2 years and 50,000 miles. Pack capacity is 77.9 kWh according to the BMS. Pack is well equalized, and last check was at about 6mV balance.
 

islandbayy

Active Member
Feb 25, 2013
2,644
1,015
Greendale, Wisconsin
Well, I am home. Landed last night around 12:30am and the car showed that snowflake icon on the battery display (Donner Summit Mode?). When I got to the car, the display immediately said, "Very Low Battery" which I'd never seen before. It showed 26mi of range remaining and it was 21F outside. This meant a mandatory trip to the supercharger (which unfortunately is not on my way home).

I figured the 8 mi trip to the supercharger was not risky with 26mi of range, so I drove normally (i.e., turned on the heat, drove at 70mph in a 65) but after 4mi I looked down and saw that I had 12mi remaining! My 4mi drive had consumed 14mi of rated range and I still had 4mi left to go! I really didn't want to be stranded at 1am in cold weather... so I slowed down to about 50mph and turned off everything. No heat, no seat heater, not even the radio. The car began driving different... I could feel the responsiveness decline as it went into some other mode attempting to not die.

I reached the supercharger with 4mi left on the battery. Strangely, after 5min of charging, I got up to 5mi of charge. After another 5mins it was 15mi of charge. The car said "supercharging" but was charging at a rate of 27mi per hour of charge. I have used superchargers before and usually it's 200+ miles for each hour. Perhaps the cold? Perhaps the depleted state of my battery? After about half an hour, it was up to 140mi per hour, and the car had 100mi of charge so I could make it home.

Home at 2am. Exhausted.

I won't be taking my Tesla to the airport any more... it's too risky
 

Barry

Active Member
Aug 9, 2013
1,803
1,381
Colorado
I won't be taking my Tesla to the airport any more... it's too risky
Not risky at all when everything is working correctly and the settings are correct. You really should get to the bottom of this.

If smart preconditioing and cabin overheat protection were OFF, I suggest you call Tesla, explain what happened and ask them to pull the logs to find out what was sucking your battery dry. Please report back to us.
 

ozweepay

Member
Jul 16, 2015
208
35
Boulder, CO, USA
Not risky at all when everything is working correctly and the settings are correct. You really should get to the bottom of this.

If smart preconditioing and cabin overheat protection were OFF, I suggest you call Tesla, explain what happened and ask them to pull the logs to find out what was sucking your battery dry. Please report back to us.
Just checked. Smart Preconditioning was off. Energy Saving mode was on. Cabin overheat was on.

Temps were in the 10-20F range most of the two days where I went from 220mi range to 40mi range.

There really needs to be a button or setting for Teslas that put it into "long term sleep" mode or something.
 
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ilovemycoffee

MS 85D HW1 Late 2015
Sep 16, 2015
183
103
Portland, Oregon metro
There really needs to be a button or setting for Teslas that put it into "long term sleep" mode or something.

We left our car at the airport a couple of weeks ago. It got down to the 30’s, but we only lost 30 miles in 10 days. It would be convenient to have a “hibernation” button for situations like this.

I hope you will bring it to Tesla’s attention and they can identify what happened.
 

Lodo1000

2017 75D AP2 Prem CW
Nov 19, 2017
116
103
Houston
My airport battery story is unfolding currently and curious if anyone has seen this before.

I parked the car on Friday at the airport and plugged it in to a Blink charger. I checked on the charging and it did fine and completed a couple of hours later.

I then checked in on the car with both the Tesla app and Dashboard for Tesla and now I have both a 'fully charged' and '0' percent battery remaining.

I checked with Tesla and the response was that it is likely just in need of a screen reboot. Nonetheless, it's a little unnerving to see '0' battery and just have to wait until we get back to see what's really happening.

Anyone seen this before?
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thecloud

As rhythm raced inside, the ship came alive
Nov 24, 2014
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Sunnyvale, CA
I checked with Tesla and the response was that it is likely just in need of a screen reboot. Nonetheless, it's a little unnerving to see '0' battery and just have to wait until we get back to see what's really happening.

Anyone seen this before?
Yes, and a screen reboot should fix it.
 
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islandbayy

Active Member
Feb 25, 2013
2,644
1,015
Greendale, Wisconsin
Not risky at all when everything is working correctly and the settings are correct. You really should get to the bottom of this.

If smart preconditioing and cabin overheat protection were OFF, I suggest you call Tesla, explain what happened and ask them to pull the logs to find out what was sucking your battery dry. Please report back to us.
Agreed. When I was in China Last Year (Errr. forgot it's the first, so 2016) for 2 weeks while getting married, my 90D sat unplugged in the driveway. Wasnt frigid cold, however, it was in the high 30's to low 50's while gone. only lost about 30 miles while gone
 

Akikiki

A'-Lo-HA ! y'all
Nov 26, 2012
6,324
4,452
Kaneohe, HI
My airport battery story is unfolding currently and curious if anyone has seen this before.

I parked the car on Friday at the airport and plugged it in to a Blink charger. I checked on the charging and it did fine and completed a couple of hours later.
Did you leave your car plugged in at a Blink charging station for the past 3-4 days?
 

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