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Car died and SC say must replace battery out of warranty

WAMZ

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Aug 2, 2021
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5
Alberta
Got this 2013 MS P85 from the auction, no damages at all! clean carfax... but car was at 0% charge.
Boosted 12v from nose cone opened the car all is good till now, connected 12v battery to charger and connected the car to charge using mobile charger.
it took a couple of hours and I started to see some juice in the main pack...
next day I started the car all is good and I drove it for 5 minutes...
plugged it back on charger over the weekend when I came back to check the car it was maybe at 90% charge.
tried to run the car and got plenty of errors and the car is not moving now also would not charge if I open the charging port the lock pin is up and if I push it down it will turn red...

I checked with Tesla SC and they said main pack need to be replaced $30,000 Canadian dollars warranty ended 5 months ago!!!

I want to fix this myself! I appreciate every help or previous experiences.

mainly the fault is from BMS ...

BMS_f071 SM TransCon not met
BMS_w107 SW Cell Voltage sensor
BMS_w129 SW BMB VSH Connector

as you can see from the photos below, BMS status Fault, contractors open...

anyone knows what could be the root cause for these errors?
 

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wk057

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Feb 23, 2014
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The average cost of getting an 85 pack replaced at 057 Tech has been around $5,500 including labor.

Tesla charges $16k to $23k for the same, and they still keep your core pack.

Obviously we retain the core pack as well, but our business model allows us to do this whole process cheaper than Tesla (or anyone else for that matter) by only charging the customer for what can't be salvaged (which is usually a few water-ingress-damaged modules on early 85s) and charging for the difference plus reasonable labor.

The Tesla packs are not generally repairable, contrary to popular belief... so don't fall for that type of stuff. This type of full replacement setup is almost always the best option for folks out of warranty since you get an unmodified fully tested replacement pack.

We can also arrange for shipping to and from our shop.

Contact my crew at 057tech.com/contact for more info!
 

WAMZ

Member
Aug 2, 2021
12
5
Alberta
The average cost of getting an 85 pack replaced at 057 Tech has been around $5,500 including labor.

Tesla charges $16k to $23k for the same, and they still keep your core pack.

Obviously we retain the core pack as well, but our business model allows us to do this whole process cheaper than Tesla (or anyone else for that matter) by only charging the customer for what can't be salvaged (which is usually a few water-ingress-damaged modules on early 85s) and charging for the difference plus reasonable labor.

The Tesla packs are not generally repairable, contrary to popular belief... so don't fall for that type of stuff. This type of full replacement setup is almost always the best option for folks out of warranty since you get an unmodified fully tested replacement pack.

We can also arrange for shipping to and from our shop.

Contact my crew at 057tech.com/contact for more info!
Thanks a lot for the reply, I have sent you a message would gratefully if you can check it out. Thanks
 

hpartsch

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Aug 6, 2014
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The average cost of getting an 85 pack replaced at 057 Tech has been around $5,500 including labor.

Tesla charges $16k to $23k for the same, and they still keep your core pack.

Obviously we retain the core pack as well, but our business model allows us to do this whole process cheaper than Tesla (or anyone else for that matter) by only charging the customer for what can't be salvaged (which is usually a few water-ingress-damaged modules on early 85s) and charging for the difference plus reasonable labor.

The Tesla packs are not generally repairable, contrary to popular belief... so don't fall for that type of stuff. This type of full replacement setup is almost always the best option for folks out of warranty since you get an unmodified fully tested replacement pack.

We can also arrange for shipping to and from our shop.

Contact my crew at 057tech.com/contact for more info!
Amazing and sad Tesla can't figure this out and do what your doing.
 

wk057

Vendor & Senior Tinkerer
Feb 23, 2014
5,742
12,328
Hickory, NC, USA
Amazing and sad Tesla can't figure this out and do what your doing.

They can obviously figure it out, but it's not in their business interest to charge so little. It's better for their bottom line to get you into a new Tesla than to fix your old Tesla.

^ This. 100% this.

It would be great to see a public debate between, not about, Gruber Motors and WK057 Tech.

Since there's no way to really debate the data and technical aspects of such things in their favor, I don't think they'd agree to such a debate. I'd kind of be for it, since I don't really like seeing people getting bamboozled, but, I honestly don't have time for such things at the moment.

Edit: Let's put it this way: I've done ~50+ battery replacements on customer Model S/X vehicles (either upgrades or failure replacements) and have processed thousands of Model S/X battery modules to-date. At least 4 of these customers went to other shall-remain-nameless EV shops before we took care of them properly. I even have had customers that live within a single charge of such shops and still end up shipping their vehicles to 057 for proper service. That should say a lot.

I think eventually I need a testimonials section on my site...
 
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Electric700

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May 21, 2013
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Florida, United States
Sorry to see that Wamz. You should ask Tesla to repair the battery. Hopefully by now they have a much lower cost option (I am thinking lower than $2000 to fix it). They really need to do this as more people switch to EVs. As others have said, you could also contact another company such as Gruber Motors (they received excellent reviews) or as a last resort, trade your Tesla in for a new one.
 

TwistedGray

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Mar 12, 2021
402
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Monterey Bay, CA
Sorry to see that Wamz. You should ask Tesla to repair the battery. Hopefully by now they have a much lower cost option (I am thinking lower than $2000 to fix it). They really need to do this as more people switch to EVs. As others have said, you could also contact another company such as Gruber Motors (they received excellent reviews) or as a last resort, trade your Tesla in for a new one.
As of a few months ago, there is not a repair option through Tesla. There likely never will be.
 
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