Car & Driver: The Mach E is simply better than the Model Y

[thesmokingman]

Perhaps Ford sacked him

Ya know... given the history of corporate shills, it wouldn't surprise me. Funny as fact, Intel ended up officially hiring their number 1 shill and named him Chief Performance Strategist. Wth is a CPS? He makes the BS graphs that Intel uses to mislead consumers into thinking whatever narrative Intel is pushing.

Ryan Shrout of PC Perspective Joins Intel as Chief Performance Strategist

Ryan Shrout, lead editor of PC Perspective late Wednesday, announced his departure from the publication. He will be joining Intel as the Chief Performance Strategist, and his role will be to identify the nature of the demands from the computing industry, and draw out strategies for the various...

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[jboy210]

the Ford PUP is only for 6 weeks.
Twitter's 84 hour work-week mandate is applicable until all original employees are extinguished.

But likely same result at Ford. Go on PUP, work like a dog for 6 weeks, and show improved performance. But you still lose your job because you obviously weren't working hard enough previously so you are out of here, slacker. Mgmt logic!

 

[tangible1]

Ya know... given the history of corporate shills, it wouldn't surprise me. Funny as fact, Intel ended up officially hiring their number 1 shill and named him Chief Performance Strategist. Wth is a CPS? He makes the BS graphs that Intel uses to mislead consumers into thinking whatever narrative Intel is pushing.

Ryan Shrout of PC Perspective Joins Intel as Chief Performance Strategist

Ryan Shrout, lead editor of PC Perspective late Wednesday, announced his departure from the publication. He will be joining Intel as the Chief Performance Strategist, and his role will be to identify the nature of the demands from the computing industry, and draw out strategies for the various...

www.techpowerup.com

Won't make up for TSMC crushing Intel's 'fab superiority'. Which ended over 2 decades ago.

 

[DblOSmith]

Weep for poor Ligma and Johnston

Damn you Elron Hitler!!!!!!

 

[EVer Hopeful]

Charging at home is what many people do, but most people occasionally drive much further. And by me, Superchargers are pretty busy on weekend mornings with people topping off before heading to the nearby shopping, soccer games, etc. They pop into the Supercharger and run over to co-located Starbucks while waiting the few minutes to charge. The convenience wins out over saving by charging at home.

How is charging at a Supercharger more "convenient" than charging at home?

I come home, get out of the vehicle, plug it in, then in the morning I'm ready for the next day. I'd have to drive to an SC ... and then wait

 

[Zer0t]

sorry but NONE chance ford could alter anything significant in the design in one year, mustang is just better, uglier but better

I’ll go the opposite way. The MME is better looking but not as good.

 

[vickh]

How is charging at a Supercharger more "convenient" than charging at home?

I come home, get out of the vehicle, plug it in, then in the morning I'm ready for the next day. I'd have to drive to an SC ... and then wait

some SC locations are "local" and have shopping etc so no real wait (if anything I have to hurry and go back). I agree about convenience though

 

[Wratran]

sorry but NONE chance ford could alter anything significant in the design in one year, mustang is just better, uglier but better

Model Y and 3 are just ugly...seem like tesla took the flagship model and just shrink to make it cheaper and affordable

 

[Bouba]

Model Y and 3 are just ugly...seem like tesla took the flagship model and just shrink to make it cheaper and affordable

The Model 3 maybe a cut down S...but it has an elegance and charm of its own

 

[RobDickinson]

meh pointless arguing about styling, I certainly have preference, and the mache isnt bad but everyone is different.

Apart from people who like BMWs styling, they can get into the sea.

 

[DrGriz]

There's no accounting for taste.

 

[Bouba]

If Ford just called it the Mach E then I would have no problem with it’s bland styling. But calling it a Mustang is a rallying cry to anyone with the vaguest appreciation of automobile history...and they insulted the memory (and I’m not a Mustang guy)

 

[RobDickinson]

meh everyone is making a suv these days, porsche, lambo, ferrari, lotus

 

[vickh]

Model Y and 3 are just ugly...seem like tesla took the flagship model and just shrink to make it cheaper and affordable

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. The 3/Y front is a bit wonky depending on the angle, but the back is sexy (and that's what I'm into )

 

[vickh]

If Ford just called it the Mach E then I would have no problem with it’s bland styling. But calling it a Mustang is a rallying cry to anyone with the vaguest appreciation of automobile history...and they insulted the memory (and I’m not a Mustang guy)

or Model E(V) as homage to their suit against TSLA

 

[john5520]

People often seem to conflate looks with whether a vehicle is 'good' or not. I consider my 3 good as it hasn't given me any issues that I would consider major in the last 20k miles (knock on wood). Every now and then there might be a very minor software glitch that may require a soft reset but that's probably 2 or at most 3 times a year. And PAAK is literally bullet proof. Since the Y and the 3 are cousins, I would expect it to have similar reliability.

Compare that to the Mach-E where they can break before leaving the dealership requiring days or weeks of repair. And I could name at least 5-10 annoying to serious issues that affect pretty much the majority of them. It's bad.

 

[tangible1]

People often seem to conflate looks with whether a vehicle is 'good' or not. I consider my 3 good as it hasn't given me any issues that I would consider major in the last 20k miles (knock on wood). Every now and then there might be a very minor software glitch that may require a soft reset but that's probably 2 or at most 3 times a year. And PAAK is literally bullet proof. Since the Y and the 3 are cousins, I would expect it to have similar reliability.

Compare that to the Mach-E where they can break before leaving the dealership requiring days or weeks of repair. And I could name at least 5-10 annoying to serious issues that affect pretty much the majority of them. It's bad.

the Mach-E high voltage junction box issue, which bricks the car, is a total deal-breaker.
Tesla is a far more mature product in all respects. No other maker is close. others will get there, but....when?

software is an afterthought or subcontracted for most car companies, yet an EV is a PC with tires. The software is fundamental.

charging infrastructure is an afterthought for most EV companies, they expect "it will just be there".
Tesla had to develop it for themselves to solve the chicken/egg conundrum. So again, a major differentiator.
true even after Tesla opens their network to others (which they will, when Biden's boys pay Tesla to do it)(Elon won't if they don't)

 

[Ohmster]

If Ford just called it the Mach E then I would have no problem with it’s bland styling. But calling it a Mustang is a rallying cry to anyone with the vaguest appreciation of automobile history...and they insulted the memory (and I’m not a Mustang guy)

Some of you might remember (late '80s) when the Probe was slated to be the 'new' Mustang. Ugh.

 

[RobDickinson]

Ford launching the probe in the UK was peak mis-marketing

 

[EVer Hopeful]

People often seem to conflate looks with whether a vehicle is 'good' or not.

Agreed. In fact people often seem to choose cars by looks alone, instead of safety, reliability, repairability, resale value and yes price point too