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If you have it in writing then you have a contract. They should honor it. Just like the people that complain about their car going down in price 2 weeks after they ordered their, Thats a contract in writing and they wont discount to a new price. pursue it and see where it goes. Worst case you take your money elsewhere.
 
You are not going to like anything I have to say.

One: walk away.

Two: if you are buying an 80 k car and suddenly 4 k breaks the bank, you cannot afford it. You should have never bought the car in the first place.

I know I suck. So does reality.

I think OP did mention that there's something called "principle". It absolutely does NOT matter if one can or cannot afford the car. So you're saying that it's OK if one agreed to buy something at a certain price, then all of sudden the price increased (honest mistake or not), then the buyer should just bend over and pay it?
 
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I want clear things up here, for everyone who think " it's a 4K increase" it's not for us!!! Here why!

Original prices is 80,750, + 4K taxes and paper work ( estimate)

New prices, 84,400 + 4 k taxes and paper work.

We have put aside 4K to cover the first prices, with the new prices; now we have to come up with another 4K out of pocket. We are not rich, we can afford this car, we don't want to have to pay extra because of the mistake of the dealer, it's a matter of principle like some people have said.

There are some of us who have stretch to buy a tesla, because of Elon Musk, direct to consumer buying, and we want to be apart of something new and different. It's a good feeling!!!

Also thank you to everyone who have chime in! This give us some direction to go!
 
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Hi everyone here is the case:

We test drive the model x (love the car)

1.Salesman quote us a prices of $82,950.
2. On Sunday night around dinner they said if you order by today you can get the model x on the 30th of sept because the car is already build. Doc and destination fee wave (1,200.) only if you put a deposit down tonight.
3. We put a deposit and went ahead with the order. Next morning ask if the referral program can be apply. They say yes, total price is now $80,750. Final price got vin and everything.
4. 3-4 days got an email from delivery specialist saying car will be expected Oct 10th.
5. 3 days later salesman call and say the car price is now $84,400. We made a mistake you can have a refund or continue and pay extra!


At this point everyone we spoke too is saying sorry but they won't lower the prices, they offer 3 year maintains free but won't lower to the quoted prices!

My problem is that I put my truck up for sale and took someone deposit also, sale date is the 26th thinking I'll be in a model x on the 30th. My wife and I are very angry at what's happening! We feel like they have bait and switch on us and lie from the beginning of everything we ask to get us to make a deposit.

We feel that we haven't done anything wrong we have everything from the beginning in writing from the salesman all the way to the manager. Why should be have to pay the higher prices because they made a mistake?

We can't afford the extra $3650 that they raise it too!

What are your thought?

Are you stretching financially to buy it in the first place? If that last amount is something you cannot afford, I would say think twice about making such a large purchase. Sell the truck, of course, and look into a smartly-priced car within your means. If you must have a Tesla, consider getting the refund and renting something for a few weeks and look for another deal towards December when further discounting of inventory cars may be happening.

You are in Maine. In winter, BEVs lose about 30% range to the cold weather. You chose a 60 kWh battery to perhaps save on costs. That extra 15 kWh can be crucial in a northern climate.

Have you driven any other plug-in cars at all? Did you want X just for falcon wing doors? You can drive electrically in 25 other ways across the plug-in marketplace. The list of available plug-ins is condensed in this list here: Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard

If you have small children and the funds are being stretched - consider the kids and their future and funds needed to raise them. When I was young (teenager) I thought "when I grow up, I wanna spend my money on something cool, like a Lamborghini! (flip up doors)". As I grew up and raised kids, I spend money like an 80 year old recluse hermit who never wants to pay extra for cheese on a sandwich. Make family life plans carefully - once you sign a car contract, deprecation sets in immediately.

I would recommend that you (or anyone reading this) look into "Financial Peace University" and carefully start building a family budget. I am even willing to pay for anyone's attendance to the class with their spouse - if you take me up on it, and two people on TMC already have - I paypal the money to them so that they can pay for the class and all I want to do is help pay it forward to educate people on planning well with their budgets.
 
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Are you stretching financially to buy it in the first place? If that last amount is something you cannot afford, I would say think twice about making such a large purchase. Sell the truck, of course, and look into a smartly-priced car within your means. If you must have a Tesla, consider getting the refund and renting something for a few weeks and look for another deal towards December when further discounting of inventory cars may be happening.

You are in Maine. In winter, BEVs lose about 30% range to the cold weather. You chose a 60 kWh battery to perhaps save on costs. That extra 15 kWh can be crucial in a northern climate.

Have you driven any other plug-in cars at all? Did you want X just for falcon wing doors? You can drive electrically in 25 other ways across the plug-in marketplace. The list of available plug-ins is condensed in this list here: Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard

If you have small children and the funds are being stretched - consider the kids and their future and funds needed to raise them. When I was young (teenager) I thought "when I grow up, I wanna spend my money on something cool, like a Lamborghini! (flip up doors)". As I grew up and raised kids, I spend money like an 80 year old recluse hermit who never wants to pay extra for cheese on a sandwich. Make family life plans carefully - once you sign a car contract, deprecation sets in immediately.

I would recommend that you (or anyone reading this) look into "Financial Peace University" and carefully start building a family budget. I am even willing to pay for anyone's attendance to the class with their spouse - if you take me up on it, and two people on TMC already have - I paypal the money to them so that they can pay for the class and all I want to do is help pay it forward to educate people on planning well with their budgets.

This is all besides the point.

I would persist in having them abide to the contract they agreed to.
 
Are you stretching financially to buy it in the first place? look into "Financial Peace University" .

Congratulations folks, these TMC post is a part of a Seeking Alpha article that wants the stock price to go down

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4008237-tesla-performs-like-paper-tiger-falcon-wing-door-lawsuit

"Tesla will have a truly terrific quarter in terms of deliveries, and based on what Bonaire and Temagami are seeing, may well deliver between 23,000 and 25,000 cars.

(Has Tesla already hit its Q3 delivery goal? Here's a TMC thread about Tesla supposedly reneging on a $3,750 X75 discount, with speculation that the great deals are being yanked off the table now that the goal has been met.)
"
"Thanks this time to k1angky, Temagami, and Bonaire."
"Disclosure: I am/we are short TSLA VIA OPTIONS."

basically, anything and everything you write here are open season for lurkers and posters to write paid articles.
 
So? This is, you know, the internet ..
yes i know that, having been around since both the beginning and well before the internet.
I am pointing out, that just in case, when ones words are used, one may wish to verify, or not, that the words were used as intended, merely informing, nothing more or less, tho it does disturb me a bit to see Tesla fans called "shills"
 
Congratulations folks, these TMC post is a part of a Seeking Alpha article that wants the stock price to go down

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4008237-tesla-performs-like-paper-tiger-falcon-wing-door-lawsuit

"Tesla will have a truly terrific quarter in terms of deliveries, and based on what Bonaire and Temagami are seeing, may well deliver between 23,000 and 25,000 cars.

(Has Tesla already hit its Q3 delivery goal? Here's a TMC thread about Tesla supposedly reneging on a $3,750 X75 discount, with speculation that the great deals are being yanked off the table now that the goal has been met.)
"
"Thanks this time to k1angky, Temagami, and Bonaire."
"Disclosure: I am/we are short TSLA VIA OPTIONS."

basically, anything and everything you write here are open season for lurkers and posters to write paid articles.

What I wrote above has nothing to do with Seeking Alpha. It brings up items that are important to BEV ownership (winter conditions loss of range and critical nature of 75 over 60) and concern that the guy might be putting his family budget at risk for buying a car possibly above his means. How is that a problem? Others in this same thread expressed the same concerns.

Why wouldn't you also do the same to help guide someone? I assume you (and others) want the OP to go through with the purchase for one reason - to bolster the # of sales, to help with your stock price and to of course, like anyone who enjoys driving EV, find another person to extol the virtues of electric driving. However, do have a little concern when you see someone stretching to buy a car and saying the extra couple thousand are not in their budget. It is a sign they may be over their skis in terms of finances.

The 2-year leases were designed to "get more people in the door - today" - with lower monthly payments to essentially rent a car for a couple years. This helps sales now while building a larger pool of CPO cars later. Wonder what it does to residuals and resale? Who cares if you are a lessee - you just walk away. Isn't that enough to garner more "digits" for this quarter's "big announcement"?
 
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What I wrote above has nothing to do with Seeking Alpha. It brings up items that are important to BEV ownership (winter conditions loss of range and critical nature of 75 over 60) and concern that the guy might be putting his family budget at risk for buying a car possibly above his means. How is that a problem? Others in this same thread expressed the same concerns.

Why wouldn't you also do the same to help guide someone? I assume you (and others) want the OP to go through with the purchase for one reason - to bolster the # of sales, to help with your stock price and to of course, like anyone who enjoys driving EV, find another person to extol the virtues of electric driving. However, do have a little concern when you see someone stretching to buy a car and saying the extra couple thousand are not in their budget. It is a sign they may be over their skis in terms of finances.

The 2-year leases were designed to "get more people in the door - today" - with lower monthly payments to essentially rent a car for a couple years. This helps sales now while building a larger pool of CPO cars later. Wonder what it does to residuals and resale? Who cares if you are a lessee - you just walk away. Isn't that enough to garner more "digits" for this quarter's "big announcement"?

@bonaire
"A Note About My Contributors
Thanks this time to k1angky, Temagami, and Bonaire.
None of them necessarily subscribes to all my points of analysis"

as i said,

"I am pointing out, that just in case, when ones words are used, one may wish to verify, or not, that the words were used as intended, merely informing, nothing more or less,"

If you have a problem, I'm not the one to complain to, but the author on SA.
(note my signature addition, tho i doubt it will do any good)
 
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Hi everyone.

This is what is being offer atm from Tesla.

1. Agreed to the $84,400. and 3 years of annual maintains free
2. Have a new custom order Model X without some option to lower the prices and is put in front of the line to start production. 6-8 weeks wait
3. Cancel and get out $2500 refund back to us.

Here what we are seeking.

1. Purchase of the original prices of $80,750.
2. Agreed to the new prices of $84,400 and a loaner car until we get our model x. (my truck sold already in two days so no car for me)
3. Agreed to the new prices of $84,400 and a apology from Elon Musk himself, (we think that someone should be responsible for the terrible customer service. We will take an email or a phone call. Simple to do.

We have also filed a formal complaint to our state for the way things have gone down. As of now we are still on going!
 
Hi everyone.

This is what is being offer atm from Tesla.

1. Agreed to the $84,400. and 3 years of annual maintains free
2. Have a new custom order Model X without some option to lower the prices and is put in front of the line to start production. 6-8 weeks wait
3. Cancel and get out $2500 refund back to us.

Here what we are seeking.

1. Purchase of the original prices of $80,750.
2. Agreed to the new prices of $84,400 and a loaner car until we get our model x. (my truck sold already in two days so no car for me)
3. Agreed to the new prices of $84,400 and a apology from Elon Musk himself, (we think that someone should be responsible for the terrible customer service. We will take an email or a phone call. Simple to do.

We have also filed a formal complaint to our state for the way things have gone down. As of now we are still on going!

I think all three of these demands are a bit over the top, especially number 3. In case you aren't aware, Elon has been known to simply refuse to sell a vehicle to someone he thinks is being unfair, so demanding an apology from him because some employee may or may not have made a mistake is really almost absurd.

Personally, I think Tesla's offer 1 and 2 are both fair offers. I get that you might not want to wait 6 weeks, but they've offered to put you at the front of the line, in front of other people who reserved well before you. And really, why should they give you a loaner? You said yourself you were originally planning on an October 10th delivery... yet you also acknowledge you already sold your vehicle. So, what were you planning to do between now and October 10? And, why can't you do that while waiting for your build?

I just want to reiterate my initial point: almost every state gives sellers a right to cancel. You may not like that, but unless you can definitively prove they have no such right, you are at a disadvantage and that means you should be appealing on the basis of good will, not issuing demands. It sounds to me like you have made some progress in getting them to meet you half way, as it were. But from my perspective it sounds like you are being inflexible.

Not trying to be unkind, but when I suggested you pursue ways of applying pressure, I didn't expect that to be interpreted as throwing down the gauntlet and issuing arbitrary demands; that's really unlikely to work.
 
Update: They have consider our option 2:

Agreed to the new prices, and a loaner vehicle until the model x arrive between 1st till the 10th of October.

That's what we have discuss and possible deal going forward, we won't know till the next day, I'll keep you guys posted!!!!
 
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(my opinion is...) Your option 2 was to pay the higher price and they give you a loaner? That is the least effort for Tesla to do and they make out the best of all your options with that. They have given loaners out for years for long periods in cases like this so giving a loaner is rote.

You should push for your original documented price. They have given large discounts to hundreds of buyers this past few weeks and I don't see why that price is not honored.
 
On the other hand fighting for the original price seems as if it would further delay the deal and cause the OP a greater amount of inconvenience, with no guarantee of success. Especially if as others have said it's legal to back out of the initial agreement. I don't like the way Tesla seems to have handled this but if it's legal there isn't much to be done.
 
On the other hand fighting for the original price seems as if it would further delay the deal and cause the OP a greater amount of inconvenience, with no guarantee of success. Especially if as others have said it's legal to back out of the initial agreement. I don't like the way Tesla seems to have handled this but if it's legal there isn't much to be done.

I have a fourth option. Take the refund of the deposit. Then plan a good strategy to buy it even cheaper going into Q4 December. More than likely he will be able to do something with gusto and save a few thousand in the process. As a consumer, always try to get the best deal. You can rent an ICE car for under $180 a week in some places. This is definitely a 1st world problem for the OP.
 
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