Welcome to Tesla Motors Club
Discuss Tesla's Model S, Model 3, Model X, Model Y, Cybertruck, Roadster and More.
Register

Caution Model X, Hidden Tire Wear

Ron97062

Member
Dec 9, 2019
76
61
Portland
if your tire isn't directional. most tire places won't mount/dismount if your insides are too worn.
I have the stock Continental tires that came with my 2020 Model X LR+. Are they directional? If not, then I suppose there's nothing preventing me from just swapping the tires side-to-side myself.
 

ngng

Member
Jul 23, 2018
616
262
Bay Area
I have the stock Continental tires that came with my 2020 Model X LR+. Are they directional? If not, then I suppose there's nothing preventing me from just swapping the tires side-to-side myself.

sorr,y i thought you meant flip the tires (dismount, flip, remount). side to side isn't going to help you. the inside tire will still be inside
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ron97062

ABC2D

Active Member
Dec 19, 2016
1,000
1,064
Home
I've been monitoring this thread for a while and amazed that people are getting 20-30K on the OEM tires.

My first set of OEM tires (Continental Crosscontact LX Sport) had to be replaced before 10K miles - rear got so worn out that the metal was showing on the inside where I couldn't see and didn't know to check - so, it just started leaking - got a flat. At that time Tesla was "nice" about warranty and replaced the tires under warranty with the same make and model tires. This original set of tires was mostly driven on standard height - only about 2 month before tires gave out, I had shudder fixed and switched to low suspension height.

The second OEM set of tires had to be replaced at 12K miles - same problem: inner wear on rear to metal to flat. When second set was installed, I asked for wheel alignment to be done on low (whether Tesla did it or not, I dont know) and driven at low settings all the time.

Now I'm on my third set of tires (installed Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S Plus II) and only have 22K miles on my car (2017 X). I'm very mellow driver, all mileage street (no highways), suspension is on low and I requested for aliment to be done on low again when tires were installed.

What's eating my tires?
 

gigawatt1010

Member
Aug 21, 2016
491
481
Orange County, New York
I've been monitoring this thread for a while and amazed that people are getting 20-30K on the OEM tires.

My first set of OEM tires (Continental Crosscontact LX Sport) had to be replaced before 10K miles - rear got so worn out that the metal was showing on the inside where I couldn't see and didn't know to check - so, it just started leaking - got a flat. At that time Tesla was "nice" about warranty and replaced the tires under warranty with the same make and model tires. This original set of tires was mostly driven on standard height - only about 2 month before tires gave out, I had shudder fixed and switched to low suspension height.

The second OEM set of tires had to be replaced at 12K miles - same problem: inner wear on rear to metal to flat. When second set was installed, I asked for wheel alignment to be done on low (whether Tesla did it or not, I dont know) and driven at low settings all the time.

Now I'm on my third set of tires (installed Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S Plus II) and only have 22K miles on my car (2017 X). I'm very mellow driver, all mileage street (no highways), suspension is on low and I requested for aliment to be done on low again when tires were installed.

What's eating my tires?
I had similar experience with Conti's. My MS had the OEM conti's and I got 16k miles before we replaced them again with the same tires and got about 18k on those. Then I replaced them with Michelins and I'm about 36k on those. I have an appt to replace them this Friday with the same set of Michelins.

Try Michelins on your next set and based on my experience, I'm willing to bet you'll get about double on what you've been getting from Conti's and Pirelli's.
 

Steinmetz

Maker of Lightning
Sep 25, 2019
78
30
Penngrove California
I had similar experience with Conti's. My MS had the OEM conti's and I got 16k miles before we replaced them again with the same tires and got about 18k on those. Then I replaced them with Michelins and I'm about 36k on those. I have an appt to replace them this Friday with the same set of Michelins.

Try Michelins on your next set and based on my experience, I'm willing to bet you'll get about double on what you've been getting from Conti's and Pirelli's.
Just to be clear, the wear issue was on the rear inside tires? I would be delighted to correct the issue by buying Michelin tires since they are one of my preferred brands. I just do not see how the tire design can correct the excessive, non-adjustable rear camber. I realize the inner tread blocks can be different design or compound, perhaps targeted toward Tesla or other cars with similar issues. What size tires, and Michelin model are you now using?
 

gigawatt1010

Member
Aug 21, 2016
491
481
Orange County, New York
Just to be clear, the wear issue was on the rear inside tires? I would be delighted to correct the issue by buying Michelin tires since they are one of my preferred brands. I just do not see how the tire design can correct the excessive, non-adjustable rear camber. I realize the inner tread blocks can be different design or compound, perhaps targeted toward Tesla or other cars with similar issues. What size tires, and Michelin model are you now using?
No, separate issue. Tires wearing pre-maturely is a camber/alignment issue, not a tire brand issue. I was simply commenting that I tend to get more mileage out of Michelin tires than the OEM Conti's. Sorry if it lead to confusion.
 

Josephponline

Member
Mar 18, 2019
7
4
Colorado
A few weeks ago I switched out my winter wheel and tire set for summer wheels and tires and had exactly the same experience. Inner rear tread down to metal, while outer showing almost full tread. Less than 10,000 miles (admittedly soft winter compounds). I’m regularly doing 75mph on the I-70 and I-25 with a family of 5 and was absolutely horrified to imagine what a blowout with a full car at those speeds would look like.

Most of my miles are highway miles, (the vehicle drops to Low automatically) and after all the research, like many of you here I realized it was the camber issue augmented by limited toe adjustment exacerbated by the low setting at freeway speeds.

After a lot of research, and a fair bit of procrastinating I was finally convinced that there was an answer and after talking and emailing Don at N2ITIVE https://n2itive.me, (the website is extremely helpful), I was convinced his product was the right way to go. Essentially (in layman’s terms that I understand) installing the kit gives the capability for greater range of camber and toe adjustment not present in the fixed arms from factory, allowing you to dial in recommended settings at your preferred ride height.

I ordered the parts online and within a week they’d arrived and I’ve just had them installed by Tony and the team at https://www.evfixme.com. Because I’m on the freeways a lot, I had them align my setup based on Low setting. I went one step further and installed the lowering links to eliminate shudder and binding stress on front half shafts. Don was great and found me an installer in Colorado, but i wanted to go with the EVFIXme team based on their video.

I can’t comment yet on whether or not this solves the problem - that’ll take at least a few months of driving and checking against baseline tread wear - but theoreticslly it makes sense. I’ll say the vehicle felt better after the install and aligament (highly subjective and likely a placebo affect on my part). In addition the EVFIXme team had the Tesla Offer front trunk kit in stock and I pulled the trigger on that as well.

Sorry for the long post - but I hope this helps someone else given we have a shared problem here.

2020 Model X - Performance Raven
 
  • Like
Reactions: TonyT and henderrj

ngng

Member
Jul 23, 2018
616
262
Bay Area
Because I’m on the freeways a lot, I had them align my setup based on Low setting. I went one step further and installed the lowering links to eliminate shudder and binding stress on front half shafts.

Do you know the new ride heights with the lower links set to the recommended 0.4 indicator?
 

Josephponline

Member
Mar 18, 2019
7
4
Colorado
Note the before values are after the install but before the alignment, but I think somewhat indicative of how bad the alignment was ex: factory.
 

Attachments

  • 7C6B76B1-5754-4D06-BD94-465DDE2939B0.jpeg
    7C6B76B1-5754-4D06-BD94-465DDE2939B0.jpeg
    448.3 KB · Views: 7

About Us

Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.

Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


SUPPORT TMC
Top