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Additionally, if the label on the Korean adapter was indeed factually correct, then how did anyone get above 120 kW with the adapter then? It says "300 amps" on the sticker and you can't pull more than 400 volts on a M3/MY (slightly more with MS). 400 volts x 300 amps = 120 kW at best. There are numerous YouTube videos of people pulling 200 kW. My Korean adapter wasn't even warm when I was pulling over 120 kW.
All current carrying devices can handle higher currents for short amounts of times (that's where the 80% derating comes from for continuous loads for example for EV charging). The question is how many minutes the adapters can handle at the given current, and how much does the temperature rise? The same question applies to the third party options.

It perhaps doesn't quite matter yet due to taper in existing Teslas, but with cars with bigger packs like the Cybertruck, it will begin to matter. This adapter is just fresh released but it'll be used for years, when things will change.
 
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The adapter is passive so it is the car and charger that normally limit the current and total power used during charging.

Tesla cars will happily pull 500A at low states of charge with proper pre-conditioning which is the peak limit for almost all existing CCS chargers (one CCS model can now apparently put out 540A).

The new 250 kW is probably just meant to imply 500A x 500V. The kW figure isn’t really relevant to the operating conditions of the adapter itself, only the ~500A current is at issue since that is what generates heat during charging and all existing Teslas charge at under 500V.

I have used my Tesla Korea OEM adapter, with its putative 300A rating, to charge at 350 kW labeled chargers that pulled 500A and reached ~184 kW on my Model Y LR even at ~100F on sun-baked afternoons in Nevada. After a minute or two of charging at around 180 kW, the power dropped to near 100 kW for awhile and then returned to around 150 kW before settling into the usual Model Y Supercharger charging curve. This strongly implies that the charger and/or the car measured excess heat at the adapter and temporarily reduced the charging current. Such thermocouples are widely thought to exist in the CCS plug and in the Tesla charging inlet to allow the measurement of temperatures at the charge pins.

Any thermal protections built into the adapter itself would work by entirely disconnecting the circuit (perhaps permanently with a fuse) and so never came into play. The adapter protection would be there as a fallback to prevent catastrophic failures.

If future CCS chargers begin to support output well above 540A or Tesla begins to deliver cars that charge well above 500V then the car itself might have to limit CCS charging to 500V and 500A to avoid exceeding the real capabilities of the passive adapters that people are using.
Yes, which is why I stated my Korean adapter has never even been warm to the touch on all of my EA charging sessions which were well above 120 kW for an extended period of time.
 
Happily ordered the CCS adapter. I'm sure that I could decipher posts in this thread to answer the question I'm about to pose; however, I'd like to know how prevalent are CCS chargers in the US? Based on my quick search for ones near my home, the answer is not very prevalent. Will this change soon? Is our great president's plans going to change this with CCS being a new standard in the US?

I'd like more options besides Tesla superchargers/destination chargers for road trips. Hopefully, our great president's spending plans include this. True?
 
Have you tried looking on Plugshare.com and search under the CCS standard? Depending on your area, it may be sufficiently covered by Superchargers, CCS, or a combination of both.
Indeed I did try plugshare, exactly as you suggest. And I also tried it for the destination I'd like to go about 1000 miles away. No CCS chargers near me or there, but didn't check in between.
 
Indeed I did try plugshare, exactly as you suggest. And I also tried it for the destination I'd like to go about 1000 miles away. No CCS chargers near me or there, but didn't check in between.
Said near my home, not in Baltimore area.
If your forum location is correct, here's the difference:

CCS_around_Lutherville.jpg

Superchargers_around_Lutherville.jpg
 
It is and thanks for you all finding them. The ones you've identified are mostly car dealerships nearby, which is better than nothing. Most won't let you charge w/out being in the car; however, that's better than nothing.
P.S. Here in my Baltimore suburb, I'm thankfully surrounded with lots of free charging with the J-1772 standard. I've had my Tesla for over a year and have essentially never charged at home. Free charging at work and at the Starbucks I like to go to. Still, where are the CCS stations going to be on highways?
 
P.S. Here in my Baltimore suburb, I'm thankfully surrounded with lots of free charging with the J-1772 standard. I've had my Tesla for over a year and have essentially never charged at home. Free charging at work and at the Starbucks I like to go to. Still, where are the CCS stations going to be on highways?
While not as many as Tesla, Electrify America has pretty good highway coverage.
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While not as many as Tesla, Electrify America has pretty good highway coverage.View attachment 857242
Thanks everybody for your replies! I should have checked the plugshare locations near me more carefully. There's a dealership nearby that should have reasonably fast charging, and I'll check my plug when it arrives!

We like to do long roadtrips to see our adult children, etc. and if the CCS network can give us more charging options, that's great! In the year or so I've had my Tesla, there's been no problem w/ the supercharger network.
 
Why is there such a huge hole over by Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota?
My assumption is that there's not much EV ownership in those states? I'm sure that there's some database somewhere that you can get the number of registered vehicles in those areas.

edit: Found this on electrek.co. Sorted by Percent of total EVs (2021)

State
# of EV registrations (2020)
Percent of total EVs (2020)
# of EV registrations (2021)
Percent of total EVs (2021)
YOY Growth
TOTAL
1019260
100.00%
1454480
100.00%
42.70%
California
425300
42.00%
563070
38.71%
32.40%​
Florida​
58160​
5.70%​
95640​
6.58%​
64.44%​
Texas​
52190​
5.10%​
80900​
5.56%​
55.01%​
Washington​
50520​
5.00%​
66810​
4.59%​
32.30%​
New York​
32590​
3.20%​
51870​
3.57%​
59.16%​
New Jersey​
30420​
3.00%​
47830​
3.29%​
57.23%​
Arizona​
28770​
2.80%​
40740​
2.80%​
41.61%​
Colorado​
24670​
2.40%​
37000​
2.54%​
50.00%​
Illinois​
26000​
2.60%​
36520​
2.51%​
40.50%​
Georgia​
23530​
2.30%​
34020​
2.34%​
44.58%​
Virginia​
20510​
2.00%​
30660​
2.11%​
49.50%​
Massachusetts​
21010​
2.10%​
30470​
2.09%​
45.03%​
Oregon​
22850​
2.20%​
30290​
2.08%​
32.60%​
Pennsylvania​
17530​
1.70%​
26770​
1.84%​
52.71%​
Maryland​
17970​
1.80%​
25630​
1.76%​
42.63%​
North Carolina​
16190​
1.60%​
25190​
1.73%​
55.60%​
Ohio​
14530​
1.40%​
21200​
1.46%​
45.91%​
Michigan​
10620​
1.00%​
17460​
1.20%​
64.41%​
Nevada​
11040​
1.10%​
17380​
1.19%​
57.43%​
Utah​
11230​
1.10%​
16480​
1.13%​
46.75%​
Minnesota​
10380​
1.00%​
15000​
1.03%​
44.51%​
Hawaii​
10670​
1.10%​
14220​
0.98%​
33.30%​
Connecticut​
9040​
0.90%​
13350​
0.92%​
47.70%​
Tennessee​
7810​
0.80%​
12160​
0.84%​
55.70%​
Indiana​
6990​
0.70%​
10360​
0.71%​
48.21%​
Missouri​
6740​
0.66%​
10050​
0.69%​
49.11%​
Wisconsin​
6310​
0.62%​
9330​
0.64%​
47.90%​
South Carolina​
4390​
0.43%​
7440​
0.51%​
69.50%​
Oklahoma
3410​
0.34%​
7180​
0.49%​
111.00%
Alabama​
2890​
0.30%​
4750​
0.33%​
64.40%​
Kansas​
3130​
0.31%​
4500​
0.31%​
43.77%​
New Mexico​
2620​
0.26%​
4150​
0.29%​
58.40%​
Kentucky​
2650​
0.26%​
4220​
0.29%​
59.30%​
New Hampshire​
2690​
0.26%​
4000​
0.28%​
48.70%​
Iowa​
2260​
0.22%​
3660​
0.25%​
62.00%​
District of Columbia​
2360​
0.23%​
3700​
0.25%​
56.80%​
Idaho​
2300​
0.23%​
3500​
0.24%​
52.20%​
Vermont​
2230​
0.22%​
3370​
0.23%​
51.12%​
Louisiana​
1950​
0.19%​
3180​
0.22%​
63.10%​
Maine​
1920​
0.19%​
3040​
0.21%​
58.33%​
Delaware​
1950​
0.20%​
3010​
0.21%​
54.40%​
Nebraska​
1810​
0.18%​
2710​
0.19%​
49.72%​
Rhode Island​
1580​
0.16%​
2550​
0.18%​
61.39%​
Arkansas​
1330​
0.13%​
2390​
0.16%​
79.70%​
Montana​
940​
0.09%​
1650​
0.11%​
75.53%​
Mississippi​
780​
0.08%​
1310​
0.09%​
68.00%​
Alaska​
940​
0.09%​
1290​
0.09%​
37.23%​
West Virginia​
600​
0.06%​
1010​
0.07%​
68.33%​
South Dakota​
410​
0.04%​
680​
0.05%​
66.00%​
Wyoming​
330​
0.03%​
510​
0.04%​
54.60%​
North Dakota​
220​
0.02%​
380​
0.03%​
72.73%​
 
My assumption is that there's not much EV ownership in those states? I'm sure that there's some database somewhere that you can get the number of registered vehicles in those areas.

edit: Found this on electrek.co. Sorted by Percent of total EVs (2021)

State
# of EV registrations (2020)
Percent of total EVs (2020)
# of EV registrations (2021)
Percent of total EVs (2021)
YOY Growth
TOTAL
1019260
100.00%
1454480
100.00%
42.70%
California
425300
42.00%
563070
38.71%
32.40%​
Florida​
58160​
5.70%​
95640​
6.58%​
64.44%​
Texas​
52190​
5.10%​
80900​
5.56%​
55.01%​
Washington​
50520​
5.00%​
66810​
4.59%​
32.30%​
New York​
32590​
3.20%​
51870​
3.57%​
59.16%​
New Jersey​
30420​
3.00%​
47830​
3.29%​
57.23%​
Arizona​
28770​
2.80%​
40740​
2.80%​
41.61%​
Colorado​
24670​
2.40%​
37000​
2.54%​
50.00%​
Illinois​
26000​
2.60%​
36520​
2.51%​
40.50%​
Georgia​
23530​
2.30%​
34020​
2.34%​
44.58%​
Virginia​
20510​
2.00%​
30660​
2.11%​
49.50%​
Massachusetts​
21010​
2.10%​
30470​
2.09%​
45.03%​
Oregon​
22850​
2.20%​
30290​
2.08%​
32.60%​
Pennsylvania​
17530​
1.70%​
26770​
1.84%​
52.71%​
Maryland​
17970​
1.80%​
25630​
1.76%​
42.63%​
North Carolina​
16190​
1.60%​
25190​
1.73%​
55.60%​
Ohio​
14530​
1.40%​
21200​
1.46%​
45.91%​
Michigan​
10620​
1.00%​
17460​
1.20%​
64.41%​
Nevada​
11040​
1.10%​
17380​
1.19%​
57.43%​
Utah​
11230​
1.10%​
16480​
1.13%​
46.75%​
Minnesota​
10380​
1.00%​
15000​
1.03%​
44.51%​
Hawaii​
10670​
1.10%​
14220​
0.98%​
33.30%​
Connecticut​
9040​
0.90%​
13350​
0.92%​
47.70%​
Tennessee​
7810​
0.80%​
12160​
0.84%​
55.70%​
Indiana​
6990​
0.70%​
10360​
0.71%​
48.21%​
Missouri​
6740​
0.66%​
10050​
0.69%​
49.11%​
Wisconsin​
6310​
0.62%​
9330​
0.64%​
47.90%​
South Carolina​
4390​
0.43%​
7440​
0.51%​
69.50%​
Oklahoma
3410​
0.34%​
7180​
0.49%​
111.00%
Alabama​
2890​
0.30%​
4750​
0.33%​
64.40%​
Kansas​
3130​
0.31%​
4500​
0.31%​
43.77%​
New Mexico​
2620​
0.26%​
4150​
0.29%​
58.40%​
Kentucky​
2650​
0.26%​
4220​
0.29%​
59.30%​
New Hampshire​
2690​
0.26%​
4000​
0.28%​
48.70%​
Iowa​
2260​
0.22%​
3660​
0.25%​
62.00%​
District of Columbia​
2360​
0.23%​
3700​
0.25%​
56.80%​
Idaho​
2300​
0.23%​
3500​
0.24%​
52.20%​
Vermont​
2230​
0.22%​
3370​
0.23%​
51.12%​
Louisiana​
1950​
0.19%​
3180​
0.22%​
63.10%​
Maine​
1920​
0.19%​
3040​
0.21%​
58.33%​
Delaware​
1950​
0.20%​
3010​
0.21%​
54.40%​
Nebraska​
1810​
0.18%​
2710​
0.19%​
49.72%​
Rhode Island​
1580​
0.16%​
2550​
0.18%​
61.39%​
Arkansas​
1330​
0.13%​
2390​
0.16%​
79.70%​
Montana​
940​
0.09%​
1650​
0.11%​
75.53%​
Mississippi​
780​
0.08%​
1310​
0.09%​
68.00%​
Alaska​
940​
0.09%​
1290​
0.09%​
37.23%​
West Virginia​
600​
0.06%​
1010​
0.07%​
68.33%​
South Dakota​
410​
0.04%​
680​
0.05%​
66.00%​
Wyoming​
330​
0.03%​
510​
0.04%​
54.60%​
North Dakota​
220​
0.02%​
380​
0.03%​
72.73%​
Alternative Fuels Data Center: Maps and Data - Electric Vehicle Registrations by State doesn't even seem to have data for some of those low EV count states in the graph but if you download the spreadsheet, it has numbers. They're really low.