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CCS Adapter for North America

Discussion in 'Supercharging & Charging Infrastructure' started by Can37, Sep 8, 2019.

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  1. cwerdna

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    These are my charges so far this month.

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    It may just be the locations, they say there is a discount schedule

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    I think the idea is the busier they are the more likely they are to charge...
     
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    It seems DrivetheArc has extended 100% discount promo ticket offer until further notice.

    COVID-19 update: 100% discount PromoTicket services - DRIVEtheARC posted May 27, 2020 states this.

    There are some Bolt drivers on Bolt FB groups who claim they're now able to get free SAE Combo charging too, although I see nothing that directly says that on their strange web site. They only mention free CHAdeMO charging.
     
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    As I posted at CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3, I can confirm that CCS charging is free on DriveTheArc for the time being. I just did so w/my Bolt earlier tonight.
     
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    Another summer of road trips has rolled around and I'm still holding out hope a CCS adapter will be available soon (tm). My first trip of the year I am borrowing a friends CHAdeMO adapter; he bought it back in his Model S days 6 years ago so it was a worthwhile investment at the time. I find it hard to want to shell out the cash now though, when I see that the CCS adapter being sold in Europe is smaller, cheaper, and charges at a higher rate! Almost none of the public DCFCs are free now in BC (as it should be), and of course none of the private ones are, so there is no cost-benefit argument to just buy it now. The only reason is to get the ability to travel further afield...

    My usual stomping grounds - DCFC coverage:

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    Supercharger coverage:

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    That is a whole lot of BC, AB and northern WA/ID/MT I can't get to at all. Many of these regions are major tourism draws and/or major cities (at least as far as BC is concerned for size!). If they won't build us more SC's in these areas, at least give us the ability to use the latest standard. CHAdeMO is dying a slow death and I do not want to spend big $$ on an adapter for it.
     
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    As a fellow BC resident I'm waiting on the CCS adapter too. So many free BC hydro stations around and no way to use them. I refuse to pay $650 for a charger limited to 50kW. Especially as you mentioned, Europe had a CCS charger for about 100 Euros.
     
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    I think the adapter is ~500 Euros for older cars that need the hardware retrofit to use CCS.
     
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    Yeah I know it is more involved for older X and S cars, but for the most common cars (Y and 3) I'm pretty sure it was a $130 "dumb" adapter, similar to the J1772 adapter.
     
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    The European 3&Y don't need an adapter at all they came with a CCS2 port on the car.
     
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    Dumb CCS to TSL-02 adapter won't work in the US, don't hold your breath.
     
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    Maybe for the Y, but for a period of time the Model 3 (and obviously the older cars) had the Tesla ports. EU superchargers still have both plugs.
     
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    Nope, the European Model 3s have always had the CCS2 ports.
     
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    My wife did a cross country drive from Denver to Prescott and it routed through remote Indian lands south of Moab. Despite the routing saying she could make it, she had to stop at a destination charger for a few hours to make it. She had my Chademo adapter that was no help, but a CCS adapter could have been helpful.
     
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    In Germany the adapter alone costs 170 Euros. It works for all Model S/X built starting May 2019. Only older cars required the retrofit, which brought the total cost to 500 Euros.
     
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    This has been a question since the Euro adapter appeared. Do you have facts/sources that definitely confirm this?
     
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    PJFW8 Red Menace may hurt me

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    The European CCS standard is different than ours, not just the shape of the connector. European Tesla superchargers are also different than ours.
     
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    Of course. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's impossible to build a passive adapter fo the US Tesla port.
     
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    I have heard there is a adapter for US cars to use European Super Chargers. Supposedly it costs around $800
     
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    Read the forum, technically it is not possible for a simple mechanical lock extension from the car port to the Type1 plug as used in the Type 2 plug necessitating an electromagnetic lock, power, and the logic to drive it, can't be dumb, and it can't be cheap.
     
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    Do you have anything more specific than the entire forum? Link to a thread, perhaps? Honestly a lock moved via a solenoid or something can't be overly complicated or expensive. I feel like the real reason Tesla wouldn't develop this for North America is we don't have strict regulations on EV charging like the EU, and they had no choice there. Here they'd just be spending money on R&D to take away business from their own superchargers. Sure they said supercharging is a non-profit aspect of the business, but they also did say it would be free forever! Things change, especially when money talks.
     

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