You wait to install the new ECU until you have an update pending. Then after you install the ECU to start the update. (At least that is what people have said works.)
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Because the charge port controller needs an additional chip set to support charging via CCS and the older cars were built with a board that didn't include that.
I think the European upgrade was like $200-250? So with the $250 for the adapter if the price is similar to the South Korean adapter (converted to USD), it'd be about $500ish dollars--just about the same or slightly more expensive than the Chademo adapter for over 2x the speed. But we'll have to see when they start actually offering it, hopefully soon.
stopcrazypp
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It was €500 (which is around $565) including the cost of the adapter, but they dropped it to €299 (around $340) later. Adapter alone was €170 (around $190).
Tesla slashes price of CCS retrofit for Model S and Model X
Well, we can compare to what Tesla did in Europe for a similar product/service. When the CCS2 adapter was first made available in Europe in mid 2019, the adapter alone was being sold for 170 € (~$190). Newer Model S/X cars already had the right charge port controller board to be able to use the adapter alone, but older vehicles needed this same type of retrofit. The complete package for them, retrofit+adapter, was being sold for 500 € (~$565). A little more than a year later the price for the full package dropped to 300 € (~$340) and I think is now down to about 250 €.
This new adapter for CCS1 is being sold in Korea for ~$255, so it's about $65 more expensive than the European one was. All together, I wouldn't be surprised to see a full retrofit+adapter being sold for between $400-$700. I expect that the initial price will be towards the higher end of that range (my personal guess is $599) and will drop starting a year or more after initial availability.
This new adapter for CCS1 is being sold in Korea for ~$255, so it's about $65 more expensive than the European one was. All together, I wouldn't be surprised to see a full retrofit+adapter being sold for between $400-$700. I expect that the initial price will be towards the higher end of that range (my personal guess is $599) and will drop starting a year or more after initial availability.
Mockingbird
Member
He is using a CCS2 adapter instead of a CCS1 adapter, but the upgrade process is the same.
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Mockingbird
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damonbrodie
Member
If it was just copper there would be dozens of third party solutions…..
Darblish
Member
It’s pretty likely that, since the CCS modem is in the vehicle, we see some third-party options pop up once the vehicle software to enable them is distributed a bit more widely (plus manufacturing lead times, etc.). The question is whether Tesla will price their adapter high enough to let other companies make a profit but still be a cheaper option, or if Tesla counts on quantity to drive their cost down and price out competitors.
It’s funny I was going to sell my chademo adapter as the price of used ones has gone uts since they have been discontinued and wait tk buy a CCS
Glad I didn’t as the weather is cold here and there are tons of chademos around so don’t want to go through a winter without other dc charging options.
Hopefully once I get a ccs the chademo will still have a value
Glad I didn’t as the weather is cold here and there are tons of chademos around so don’t want to go through a winter without other dc charging options.
Hopefully once I get a ccs the chademo will still have a value
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israndy
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I will be holding on to my CHAdeMO adapter, there are a lot of chargers on (for example) the West Coast Electric Highway that are CHAdeMO ONLY. Currently they are free, I just did a few trips north, including the latest I went to the Canadian border and back to the Bay Area for free (well, Eureka wasn't free, and Mt. Shasta going up, but the rest of the trip there was no Supercharging involved).
bobby g
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Nice, me too - AZ has some that are $7 per charge - nearly free. There are some actual free ones but not many
That is pretty good! I drove from the Bay Area to the Seattle area over the week of Thanksgiving and then back. Spent $143.53 in Supercharging, and an additional $17.50 at EVgo. If I'd driven our Volt at, say, 40 mpg, it would have been about $200 in gas. (Of course I'd MUCH rather drive the Model 3.)
If you'd had a CCS adaptor you could have taken advantage of Electrify America's free Thanksgiving charging. I did 550 miles for free on the way home in my Niro.
I'll likely buy the Tesla CCS adapter when it is officially released. Though my car is a 2018 build that will need the charge port electronics upgraded in order to work.
Forgot to mention that I L2 charged overnight on the way to Seattle, but didn't on the way back. That added an extra $15.54 to the return trip. (Or saved a comparable amount on the outbound drive - depending on point of view.)
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Mockingbird
Member
I will be holding on to my CHAdeMO adapter, there are a lot of chargers on (for example) the West Coast Electric Highway that are CHAdeMO ONLY. Currently they are free, I just did a few trips north, including the latest I went to the Canadian border and back to the Bay Area for free (well, Eureka wasn't free, and Mt. Shasta going up, but the rest of the trip there was no Supercharging involved).
These CHAdeMO only chargers are being replaced.
West Coast Electric Highway to Receive Extensive Upgrade from EVCS
ARCADIA, Calif. (August XX, 2021) – EV Charging Solutions (EVCS), one of the largest electric vehicle (EV) fast charging network operators on the West Coast, today announced that they are approved and funded by the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) to upgrade 44 and add three new...
evcs.com
Unfortunately, that press release didn't say what power output the new chargers will deliver.These CHAdeMO only chargers are being replaced.
West Coast Electric Highway to Receive Extensive Upgrade from EVCS
ARCADIA, Calif. (August XX, 2021) – EV Charging Solutions (EVCS), one of the largest electric vehicle (EV) fast charging network operators on the West Coast, today announced that they are approved and funded by the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) to upgrade 44 and add three new...
