I just got my Evhub CCS1 adapter today from Ukraine. I ordered 2 weeks ago. I tried it out at the local EA 150kw station and maxed out at 91kw (station said 93kw) at 40% soc. The adapter feels solid and fits easily in the center console. So much better than the setec or CHaDeMo adapters.
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Mockingbird
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FalconFour
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Yup. kW is a "result", not a stat in and of itself - the real limit is that of station amperage (nice that they don't tell ya). You'd probably be able to get 150kW out of this if you had one of those 800v cars. With a 400v Tesla, it's limited by amperage, thus 90-ish kW. Still, that's not freakin' bad at all - right up there brushing against Superchargers for speed.
I got 190kW with my EVhub adapter at a 350kW EA station. Now that's juicy
Wow nice. The two EA stations near me are all 150kw so I don’t have an opportunity to test out the 350kw stations but I’m still pleased.Yup. kW is a "result", not a stat in and of itself - the real limit is that of station amperage (nice that they don't tell ya). You'd probably be able to get 150kW out of this if you had one of those 800v cars. With a 400v Tesla, it's limited by amperage, thus 90-ish kW. Still, that's not freakin' bad at all - right up there brushing against Superchargers for speed.
I got 190kW with my EVhub adapter at a 350kW EA station. Now that's juicy
I’m gonna miss having Tesla+CCS to myself in the US, but welcome to the club, new friends. 
Edit: and the setec doesn’t count because it was so slow I barely used it. 150kW CCS or gtfo.
Edit: and the setec doesn’t count because it was so slow I barely used it. 150kW CCS or gtfo.
Mockingbird
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On the other hand, you can look forward to $7.5 billion in 150 kW+ CCS fast chargers.I’m gonna miss having Tesla+CCS to myself in the US, but welcome to the club, new friends.
Edit: and the setec doesn’t count because it was so slow I barely used it. 150kW CCS or gtfo.
The EA stations with 350 kW (500A) chargers are typically “highway” sites while metro/urban sites are 150 kW or sometimes 50 kW.
I’ve been ccs only and love never running into Tesla fanboys when charging anymore. #sorrynotsorry
I can confirm I pulled 170kW using this adapter on a 350kW EA station.
It seems that the big risk here is that if you order using that shipping service:
1. Tesla ships to them in Korea, and considers the order fulfilled when it arrives at their facility
2. They ship to you, and it gets lost along the way
3. Tesla then refuses to ship another adapter to you because your VIN has already been "used". Then what?
They really need to put some constraints on charger locations (or at least, when they review applications, take the location into consideration). Tesla's supercharger sites are at excellent locations: restaurants, retail, and lodging. And Tesla seems to like to pick sites with at least two of the three categories, if not all three, and generally, with restaurants and retail that are open late. Contrast this with Electrify America, which has placed some sites around here at locations like Bank of America parking lots. Why would you put a fast charger in a bank parking lot? Who spends 15+ minutes at a bank while they're on a road trip? Seems EA just had a requirement to spend a certain amount of money installing chargers and so they're trying to spend the money but they aren't overly concerned about where the chargers are placed, which is just as important.
Mockingbird
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What if it comes to the house, but a porch pirate stole it?
We can play this "what if" game all day.
This is false.
Electrify America has said in multiple interviews that it tries to locate its charging stations near amenities such as food and bathroom.
Uh, in parts of my neck of the woods I find the EA stations to be more usefully located W.R.T amenities than Tesla. I5 N out of the immediate Seattle metro (defined as "North of Everett"):
EA:
* Next to an outdoor mall with food stalls
* Next to a Walmart, but w/in easy walking of several restaurants.
* In a large shopping center, outside a Fed Meyer, next to a Five-Guys
Tesla:
* Next to a gas station on a casino. The gas station has no convenience store - only vending machines, and you have to call someone to get access to the restrooms. ~7 minute detour from I5 to get there.
* Next to a Hotel and Jack-in-the-box. I dislike Hotels as the public restroom, because they tend to dislike being public restrooms but plausible.
* In a shopping center, next to a Bob's Burgers and Jack-in-the-Box. Right up against the Canadian border, so only useful if I'm actually going to Canada.
So in aggregate, in this stretch, I'd say EA has better locations. More usefully located and better amenities.
(Contrast to I90-E, where Tesla pretty clearly wins.)
Specifically very close to home, my nearest 150+ kW fast-charger is an EA station that's literally in a Bank of America parking lot. ... and right next to the neighborhood Japanese market that has a lot of very good to-go food items.
The EA locations sites at Bank of America are typically intended for local metro use rather than by people doing road trips on the highway. It makes sense because these locations now often have excess parking spaces due to the transition to online banking and banks are often located near retail areas.
That may be true, but there are EA BofA locations that fill corridor gaps like Paso Robles, CA on US-101.
Yes, but do the EA locations have all those good Tesla electricity additives to keep your motor running smooth and strong and clean?
FalconFour
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No but it's all MURICAN electricity with EA. America is right in its name. AMERICA, F^^K YEAH! Ain't no wussy Tesla stuff, whereever those electricities are made.
Seems like that is on the west coast, here in the Midwest everyone (Tesla, Electrify America, EVgo, ChargePoint, etc) seems to put most of their DC chargers at the edges of parking lots or where it is difficult to get to amenities. The parking lots aren’t designed for foot traffic and other drivers aren’t expecting pedestrians.
Out of the 20+ BofA EA locations that I’m aware of in California, only the Paso Robles, Placerville, and Chico sites appear to have 350 kW charging. The others are 150 kW and are mostly located in major metro areas like SF, Sacramento, LA, and San Diego.
