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Yeah, I tried that: Tesla NA suggested that I call Tesla S Korea for help...
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Yeah, I tried that: Tesla NA suggested that I call Tesla S Korea for help...
I came clean about it, but I really don't have a problem with that. They said that unfortunately, they could not support that CCS adapter...Yeah, I tried that: Tesla NA suggested that I call Tesla S Korea for help...
yeah, see below for a little more. I came clean with them...Ouch
Once the Tesla brand CSS adapter is sold in USA, I suspect Tesla USA will be more helpful. To their credit, they probably have not been trained to deal with CSS questions since the product is not sold in USA yet.I came clean about it, but I really don't have a problem with that. They said that unfortunately, they could not support that CCS adapter...
Once the Tesla brand CSS adapter is sold in USA, I suspect Tesla USA will be more helpful. To their credit, they probably have not been trained to deal with CSS questions since the product is not sold in USA yet.
yeah, see below for a little more. I came clean with them...
Oh, yeah, I agree, but this is a little different situation. This station is the first, the first, the very first DCFC in Alaska. It beat the Supercharger in Soldotna by a few months. We are testing and getting to know these beasts up here, so I cut a lot of slack to the good folks who are working hard to get us something more than level 2!Sorry about your continued problem. It probably goes without saying that the likelihood (at least to me) is that it is not your car or the adapter but the station that is problematic. Just look at all the other reports of successful charging using this new product throughout North America.
If it was me, I would be attempting to prove this hypothesis by one-by-one eliminating the variables (e.g., "test" other car brands, other Tesla cars, and other adapter brands) at that site. As is so often the case, the people in power are always going to blame (in this instance) you, your, car, and/or your new adapter (to save themselves time, money, and effort). Prove them wrong.
Do you know if the guy with the Plaid uses/used a CCS adapter from Tesla Shop Korea?I have a few FreeWire stations local to me. Another guy has used them with his CCS adapter on a Plaid Model S with success.
I will say those stations are pretty unreliable. The station nearest to me has been repaired multiple times and in fact had to be completely replaced at one point.
It’s totally possible the station is having problems and not your car.
I'll join the side that didn't like his snide remarks about the Tesla connector. From my experience, the only people worried about my future of having a Tesla connector are non-Tesla owners. He never mentioned the fact that it might take up to 5 minutes to make connection to CCS but the Tesla never takes more than 5 seconds. Only a few CCS cars now have plugnplay most require a CC swipe that has a history of trouble and a cell phone with internet connection or be a member of the company making the chargers.. Tesla doesn't. You bought your Tesla, you're already in the Tesla network. No cell phone needed. But in theory, this will probably get fixed if the CCS network wants to survive. PlugnPlay for CCS will eventually get resolved. I believe that. Whether it survives or not depends most likely on government assistance and $upport. That means Tesla owners will need to pay taxes to support the non-Tesla car owners.So, for anyone interested in a fairly deep-dive on the state of "non-Tesla charging", this video explains a lot of stuff, from a non-Tesla perspective, and laying out some of Tesla's problems without quite making you feel angry with the guy This video just dropped last night, so it's full of hot, relevant info.
Briefly touches on the ability of Teslas to use CCS, the upcoming plan to add CCS to Supercharger sites, but most importantly: what DC charging (in general) is.
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One of the things that I thought was interesting, was that when Kyle did the plug and pay, he realized that when you do that, it bills you 41 cents/kWh, not the cheaper 31 cents / kWh, even tho he had a paid account.Only a few CCS cars now have plugnplay most require a CC swipe that has a history of trouble and a cell phone with internet connection or be a member of the company making the chargers..
The two common problems I have heard from CCS users with any of the CCS cabinerts are the plug weight is so heavy and stiff that it pulls down and doesn't make good connection to the car's communications connections. I saw somebody used a telescoping stick to support it when plugged in.I tried preconditioning, but no change. I got a 44 second session and 0.37 kWh of charge before receiving a charging discontinued error. I think that FalconFour's guess (Thursday at 9:26 pm) that there is a communications breakdown between the car and FreeWire station is probably the most likely explanation.
Reasonable guess; unlikely in practice. The cable is way too dang big and chunky (my biggest complaint of CCS), but the communication pins (control pilot & ground) aren't likely going anywhere. It's a long pin in a socket - the more you bend it, the more it rams against the socket. The more it bends, the better connection it makes (for low-current signaling, at least - for anything high current, a solid, straight connection is much better!)doesn't make good connection to the car's communications connections.
Yeah I'm no Tesla fanboy (and personally think Elon Musk is a terrible person), but he did kind of cherry pick here. He kept emphasizing how every manufacturer *except* Tesla signed onto CCS. But reality is something like 80% of EVs sold in the US are Tesla, and the supercharging network is by far the biggest charging network. It would literally be easier for the rest of the industry to convert to the TPC than Tesla to CCS. That is a big part of why it annoys me so much that Tesla didn't really offer its connector to other manufacturers despite their claims... and I probably would have gone into that a bit in the video.I'll join the side that didn't like his snide remarks about the Tesla connector. From my experience, the only people worried about my future of having a Tesla connector are non-Tesla owners. He never mentioned the fact that it might take up to 5 minutes to make connection to CCS but the Tesla never takes more than 5 seconds. Only a few CCS cars now have plugnplay most require a CC swipe that has a history of trouble and a cell phone with internet connection or be a member of the company making the chargers.. Tesla doesn't. You bought your Tesla, you're already in the Tesla network. No cell phone needed. But in theory, this will probably get fixed if the CCS network wants to survive. PlugnPlay for CCS will eventually get resolved. I believe that. Whether it survives or not depends most likely on government assistance and $upport. That means Tesla owners will need to pay taxes to support the non-Tesla car owners.
He never mentioned that Tesla has had the option of connecting to more than just Tesla Superchargers for several years. And yes, CCS now too. He believes that the CCS network will over take the Tesla network in the US. I believe that can only happen with government regulation that may outlaw the one "perfect" EV charging system ever invented. Tesla has the resources to keep up with their Supercharger network and add the much smaller number of CCS cars to it without help from government regulations. He also doesn't mention that Tesla cost to charge is lower than CCS by a significant amount of money.
The comment that Tesla is bad because they own their network is just dumb! He gives the example of something silly like would you be happy if you could only charge a Ford with "Ford electrons."
I believe everything else he said was factual. Well the 1 hr of charging in theory for his CCS trip didn't calculate the variable charging taper curves and battery preconditioning or the Ionic5's usable range. Watch Kyle Conor;'s dad ( Out of Spec YT channel) do a road trip from CT to south FL in his Ionic5 for how it really works.
He kept emphasizing how every manufacturer *except* Tesla signed onto CCS.
Not everything is an anti-Tesla conspiracy.A bunch of johnny-come-latelys get together, devise a crappy solution when their demand to join the leader on their terms is rejected and then position themselves as the 'standard' by buying enough politicians.
Electrify America isn't "failing".Color me unimpressed. My hope, that I think has a reasonable chance of coming true, is that when the EA network is released from the consent decree VW will dump its failing network and Tesla will pick it up on pennies on the dollar. Then we can progress with the real standard.
Interesting. EVgo got its start as a settlement between NRG and California Public Utilities Commision. Eventually, NRG spun off EVgo and BMW and Nissan contributed to funding network expansion. Now I think GM has committed to upgrading the network for 800V charging. It'll be interesting to see if Tesla buys EA if/when VW sells, or the other manufacturers step in so that their cars will have a place to charge.Color me unimpressed. My hope, that I think has a reasonable chance of coming true, is that when the EA network is released from the consent decree VW will dump its failing network and Tesla will pick it up on pennies on the dollar. Then we can progress with the real standard.
It was with a Tesla CCS adapter imported from Korea. I’m from the Tulsa area, if you look around on PlugShare in that area you can see entries for his testing.Do you know if the guy with the Plaid uses/used a CCS adapter from Tesla Shop Korea?