I’m thinking politics. Tesla Superchargers is a better product than CCS charging and one of many reasons why people chose Tesla. If Tesla introduced CCS adapters in the US market I’m sure some creative bureaucrat or politician would introduce a bill that would try to force Tesla to open up Superchargers for everyone. And while that may be good for the EV community overall it might not be in the best interest of a Tesla owner…
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CCS Adapter - ?
- Thread starter Neil M
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But on the flip side, they claim they make very little. Just enough to sustain it. Don't know if that includes the cost of adding more sites but selling the CCS1 would diminish the need for supercharger sites.
OTOH, they might have a liability for those vehicles that they sold without CCS1 abilities. Not the older ones, but the period last year(?) when they were selling cars without CCS1. Possible legal action there but as long as they don't sell the CCS1, no point in suing them to get all those cars upgraded.
My guess as to why Tesla has not released the adapted in the US is concern about support. There are so many different charging networks in the US (Electrify America, Shell, ChargePoint, etc.) When Telsa releases the adapter here there will be a flood of Teslas plugging into them. And then there will be a flood of support questions/calls.
No doubt someone from Tesla is monitoring forums such as this to get insight on how well the early adopters are getting along with these networks. Based on what is found (and their own testing) they may come out with a statement saying the adapters are specifically supported at Electrify America, etc. If a charging network isn't on the supported list, then Tesla can say it's not their problem.
No doubt someone from Tesla is monitoring forums such as this to get insight on how well the early adopters are getting along with these networks. Based on what is found (and their own testing) they may come out with a statement saying the adapters are specifically supported at Electrify America, etc. If a charging network isn't on the supported list, then Tesla can say it's not their problem.
Clark_Kent
Member
They will cannibalize SC revenue. I also don't see a legitimate need for it in the United States since the SC network reaches far and wide. OCONUS is a different use case with respect to the SC network so it makes more sense that the CCS adapter is available in other markets.
I think it’s end user confusion and possibly supply chain. I don’t know how many Tesla’s actually have CCS enabled, but the fact that some went out last year without CCS could create confusion for users. I think they’d have to add some logic to the store of whether you have a car that is compatible, which I believe they‘ve done before. Then what do they do for those people with 6 month old cars that say hey WTF. Also the day they go on I’d bet they sell 10s of thousands of them.
carlos31820
Member
Successful test of the CCS adapter. Battery was already at 80% so it didn’t max out but this particular charger has a max rate of 62kw anyway.
The most I saw was 50kW but much better than level 2.
The most I saw was 50kW but much better than level 2.
Likely they just need to scale up production. Korea is a small market, USA is a much, much bigger market.
As far as I know every car made in 2022 has a CCS compatible ECU. There was a period in April where the ECUs weren't available so they shipped cars without it to the delivery centers, and then had the ECU installed there when they were available. (Rather than put in a non-CCS ECU.)
As a reference the Model Y I just took delivery of that was built May 31st has a CCS compatible ECU.
everydaychris
Active Member
so what's the highest kw you guys are getting??? For me it was 189, preconditioned battery, 350kw ev go charger, 17% SOC
Tesla has already said it's opening supercharger for everyone to use, no bureaucrats required. Tesla will add CCS connectors to Supercharger stations in the US, says Elon Musk
yeah, but when? EM's promises, predictions etc regarding timeframes aren't known for their accuracy and apparently they aren't even giving a time frame here.
Proppilot
Member
Unlike us north of the frost line, many homes in the US do not have basements like we do where laundry is typically kept. They may have shallow cellars for the foundation but not the full heights that all of our homes do (okay...they MAY be an exception in Canada) but point is that it is common to have laundry in the garage south of the 49th in many places.
Proppilot
Member
I received the same message and had a minor delay and am quite sure all of a sudden a Tesla store in Korea has seen a dramatic spike in OTC orders of the adapter. It is an incredibly viable hole in the supply chain that we can get these in a couple of weeks with a click on a KR website and it is probably the lowest price (and OEM) CCS adapter you can get for our cars that will not have any of the issues the 3rd party ones have.
Proppilot
Member
You would beg to pay $ 300 the first time you needed in ;-) Per my theory, with the proliferation of BEVs that are/will be coming, the CCS infrastructure will rapidly beef up and then we will have multiple options. Tesla is breaking records in sales year after year so the line ups at the Superchargers will likely grow significantly.
CaptUAL
Member
I got it fine-13 working days. With the case too- works good- All set
Clark_Kent
Member
186 is the highest I've seen on a 350kw Electrify America charger. The battery was preconditioned and I started charging at 9% SOC. I'll run another test in the coming weeks but precondition the battery longer.
I saw up to 185 kW when charging starting at 10%. I did navigate to a nearby SC site but the car decided not to precondition the battery (maybe it was already warm enough).
