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CCS and Chademo charging at local walmart

drdumont

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Nov 22, 2019
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Right now CHADEMO is not really competition for Superchargers,<SNIP> but more of a backup L3 solution for bridging the few gaps left. <SNIP> I cannot imagine Tesla making the switch willingly.

Too bad someone hasn't fired up the Skunk Works and create something. Not that easy, and a limited market, tho.

Guess I am gonna have to bite the bullet and trade up to a bigger battery equipped Model 3.
 
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e of pi

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Too bad someone hasn't fired up the Skunk Works and create something. Not that easy, and a limited market, tho.

Guess I am gonna have to bite the bullet and trade up to a bigger battery equipped Model 3.
The Korean owners club apparently has a project cooking (they use the same CCS1 plug there, I guess), but haven't posted an update since late August. At that time, they were showing a demo unit getting 77 kW:
Ccs1(dc combo) test finish

You'd think if an owner's club could bodge something together then Tesla themselves could, but...well, that again gets a little tinfoil hat.
 
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Tycofa

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Nov 17, 2020
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CHAdeMO Is nice when you don’t have a super charge station near by or the super charge station is often full... that’s becoming a issue. There are a lot of them and You can get 150-200 miles per hour charge on Charge Point DC fast network with ChargePoint. Also, if you have a rebuilt title Tesla...CHAdeMO is your only option for fast charging as Tesla won’t let rebuilt titleTesla’s use their super charge network.
 

robl45

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CHAdeMO Is nice when you don’t have a super charge station near by or the super charge station is often full... that’s becoming a issue. There are a lot of them and You can get 150-200 miles per hour charge on Charge Point DC fast network with ChargePoint. Also, if you have a rebuilt title Tesla...CHAdeMO is your only option for fast charging as Tesla won’t let rebuilt titleTesla’s use their super charge network.
That isn't exactly a fast charge though. Could you imagine taking a road trip and stopping every 150 miles for an hour? I agree with the supercharger filling up though. Road trips in Tesla are typically based on a single supercharger location. When I took the kids home from camp, the one we stopped at was nearly full. Aside from the issue of possibly waiting for a stall, you also have the issue of getting a stall that is completely unused which I got lucky and found the last one.
 

Candleflame

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That isn't exactly a fast charge though. Could you imagine taking a road trip and stopping every 150 miles for an hour? I agree with the supercharger filling up though. Road trips in Tesla are typically based on a single supercharger location. When I took the kids home from camp, the one we stopped at was nearly full. Aside from the issue of possibly waiting for a stall, you also have the issue of getting a stall that is completely unused which I got lucky and found the last one.

This is reality for Teslas outside of USA and middle europe. 43kw max. I used to routinely drive 1100km (700ish miles) in a day just with 43kw charging. Tbh I still do but we now have a third party 200kw charger 1/3 of the way which did knock off 45min travel time.
 
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robl45

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This is reality for Teslas outside of USA and middle europe. 43kw max. I used to routinely drive 1100km in a day just with 43kw charging. Tbh I still do but we now have a third party 200kw charger 1/3 of the way which did knock off 45min travel time.
I wouldn't own a tesla if that was the case, just being honest :)
 
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Candleflame

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I wouldn't own a tesla if that was the case, just being honest :)

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drdumont

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Nov 22, 2019
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[QUOTE="Candleflame, post: 5141259, member: 33391"I wouldn't own a tesla if that was the case, just being honest[/QUOTE]

Actually, I can understand your sentiment. Suitability of purpose. I'm really grieved that the Supercharger concept isn't universally available... For now, at least. If I couldn't recharge in 20 mins or so (it is usually less) on my trips, I wouldn't have taken the plunge. But I'm really glad I did.
 

AdamMacDon

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May 8, 2019
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CHAdeMO Is nice when you don’t have a super charge station near by or the super charge station is often full... that’s becoming a issue. There are a lot of them and You can get 150-200 miles per hour charge on Charge Point DC fast network with ChargePoint. Also, if you have a rebuilt title Tesla...CHAdeMO is your only option for fast charging as Tesla won’t let rebuilt titleTesla’s use their super charge network.
Just a heads up, from what I have seen Tesla disables ALL DC fast charging when they blacklist a rebuilt car. So don't buy a rebuild if you think you can get around it with a third party station.
 
May 12, 2019
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As long as you don't update the software onboard, how can Tesla prevent you from using the chademo connector and 3rd party DC charging?

Be sure you have removed/damaged the cell card so its not communicating.
 

AdamMacDon

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As long as you don't update the software onboard, how can Tesla prevent you from using the chademo connector and 3rd party DC charging?

Be sure you have removed/damaged the cell card so its not communicating.
If you get the car in time to remove or destroy the sim card, then sure you can prevent them from "flipping the switch" remotely. However, given what I have heard many wrecked cars in the yard have already had this procedure done. Once it happens, you need a skilled software engineer like Green to hack the DC charging back on. This is also in violation of Tesla's terms, so if doing things this way be sure to keep it quiet. Also, in my opinion, losing the LTE module is losing part of the Tesla experience, I quite enjoy the detailed navigation and streaming music, and would hate to be stuck without it.
 

cimci

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Oct 28, 2020
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If you are near to a S/C and doesn't go for long trips, does it really makes sense to pay 600Cad(450USD) for the chademo adapter just to save few bucks ?
 

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