Assuming your MY has CCS enabled, then the Tesla passive CCS adapter is all you need to be able to connect to the non-Tesla high speed chargers, such as those from Electrify America. Given the Tesla CCS1 adapter is purely passive with a plastic housing and metal conductors between the pins on the Tesla plug and CCS socket, this adapter should be relatively low cost to manufacturer. Given Tesla sells the smaller J1772 adapter for $50 a realistic price for the CCS adapter should be in the $100 - $150 range, but Tesla will charge whatever Tesla wants to charge when the US version of the CCS is sold thru the US Tesla store. These Tesla CCS1 adapters can currently only be purchased today thru on-line sellers in Korea where the price is a little over $300. My only hesitation in ordering the CCS adapter from Korea is will the $300+ cost be significantly more than the price of the US version when it becomes available. Given I don't have any urgent need for the CCS adapter, I think I'll wait and see what Tesla offers here in US store, hopefully within the next few months. What are your thoughts on getting a CCS adapter now vs. holding out to see what Tesla eventually offers in the US store.
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CCS - buy now or wait?
- Thread starter Ron J.
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We've been waiting over a year for Tesla to sell it in the US. What makes you think it'll be available in the next few months?
I have no need for it but I still want one. I'm waiting for it to be sold here before I purchase.
I have no need for it but I still want one. I'm waiting for it to be sold here before I purchase.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
I think you answered your own question - You don't have an urgent need for the adapter so it makes sense to wait.
The real question is how often will you need fast DC charging and have access to a CCS charger but not a Supercharger?
The real question is how often will you need fast DC charging and have access to a CCS charger but not a Supercharger?
There is a lot more to the CCS1 adapter than the J1772 adaptor- it handles -10X the current. Typically that costs significantly more in any product, I don’t think Tesla’s price is out of line in this one instance.
...and trying to predict selling price in our current economy (or any economy?) is pointless. Tesla will charge whatever it feels best protects the interests of its investors, not the buyers. Nothing new about that, in any industry.
The cost in Korea for the adapter is around 240 USD at the last exchange rate I checked (back when I purchased mine), so I expect the US version to sell for $250 USD when it comes out (if it comes out soon... more due to inflation if it comes out next year)... so you can pay an extra $50 and have it now, or wait on Elon time for it to come out here. I do enough long range travel that the extra $50 was worth it to have it now.
Keith
Stirthepot
Member
if you want it or need it now, buy it. if you don't, wait. pretty simple and straightforward.
Unless it's actively inconveniencing you right now in a noticeable way, I wouldn't buy it shipped from Korea. If you run into issues or need a warranty claim, it's going to be a pain.
Even after it comes out in the US, I think that CCS charging is going to run into issues in the next few years. There are tons of new EVs coming out, many of which have huge batteries and charge somewhat slowly (F150, Rivian, etc.). I don't see EA or EVGo expanding quickly enough. I think it'll eventually work out, but it might be rough for a while.
Even after it comes out in the US, I think that CCS charging is going to run into issues in the next few years. There are tons of new EVs coming out, many of which have huge batteries and charge somewhat slowly (F150, Rivian, etc.). I don't see EA or EVGo expanding quickly enough. I think it'll eventually work out, but it might be rough for a while.
But if there is no supercharger or it's full and there is an EA 350A station near, I'll certainly go there. Tesla is a bit easier and quicker to hook up but not such that waiting more than a minute or two will be beneficial. Just another option for me. I don't expect to have to use it. I also bought a modern spare and really hope I don't need that either.
fiehlsport
Tire Guy
FWIW, the CCS adapter is *heavy* - definitely not a cheap-feeling part. I wouldn't be surprised if it's $250-300 when it eventually hits the US store. (Hopefully)
Has anyone done a teardown of the adapter to confirm it is 100% passive with no electronics inside?
Has anyone done a teardown of the adapter to confirm it is 100% passive with no electronics inside?
reefer_bob
Member
Yes, there is a details screen (I don't recall exactly how to navigate to it at the moment) to see that your car is CCS enabled. Having said that, your new MYP is good to go. All newer cars are enabled.
Except for sometime in 2021 where they were not for awhile.
It is in Software->Additional Information
Midnightsun
Active Member
You could wait for who knows how long before it becomes available here or Tesla could easily shut of the supply chain from Korea and you possibly would have no choice than to wait for the American version which may be several years or never. Nobody can predict what Tesla will do but I think we can all agree there is a reason it is not being sold here right now and this reason needs to be settled before it will be locally available.
Right now CCS charging plugs out number super chargers in North America they are being built at an alarming rate in comparison to SC stations. I do know where I am located SC are far and few between, probably 10 times more CCS units around if not more in comparison.
Right now CCS charging plugs out number super chargers in North America they are being built at an alarming rate in comparison to SC stations. I do know where I am located SC are far and few between, probably 10 times more CCS units around if not more in comparison.
sleepydoc
Well-Known Member
Many countries include sales tax in the listed price. The U.S. is one of the few places that doesn't.
Low chances the adapter will be less than $300 in the US. Even if it were cheaper it wouldn’t be by more than 50 bucks. I’d just buy the thing now to save yourself the peace of mind. You’re already spending 70k on a car. What difference does 50 dollars make?
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