No need for that if they care about and want Tesla owner business. Tesla vehicles can soon be charged at EVgo charging stations in the USIt seems weird the networks with CCS chargers don't sponsor this development.
Don't they want to maximize their potential customer base?
It is a similar thing. Lots and lots of old Chademo. The reason CCS is "growing faster" is really about the 150kW CCS stalls going in. Well some of them have 350kW capability, too, but there's something like 100 vehicles total in the entire country that have a chance at utilizing those about 150kW.The CCS growing faster than Chademo thing must be a regional thing. In BC they are pretty much even other than Electrify Canada approach which is motivated by VW marketing and not real EV market. The number one EV brand in BC is Tesla and the number two brand is Nissan (Leaf). Both Chademo compatible. Wouldn’t make sense to have just a CCS handle at any location. Up here a Chademo adapter is your friend if you want to meander off the main Transa Canada highway.
Except that it's limited to 50kW (since it's just a repackaged Tesla Chademo adapter). Native CCS would be much faster with a Tesla (as seen in Europe).No need for that if they care about and want Tesla owner business. Tesla vehicles can soon be charged at EVgo charging stations in the US
Far lower friction experience for their customers.
It is an early, low hanging fruit hack. Vaguely in the range of being an Urban SC.Except that it's limited to 50kW (since it's just a repackaged Tesla Chademo adapter). Native CCS would be much faster with a Tesla (as seen in Europe).
I think there would be a lot of demand in the USA for an official adapter from Tesla... especially if it was $100 or less!
I would be slightly worried about any 3rd party solution though because Tesla might be able to disable charging with it, or at least limit it to level 2 speeds. There’s some communication with the Chademo adapter to the car, so Tesla can use that as a validation indicator... obviously the superchargers talk to the car... if a 3rd party adapter didn’t talk to the car Tesla could potentially either block the car from charging (though they might then have issues with their passive level 2 adapter) or more likely just limit charge rate to level 2 speeds. This would “control the risk” that Tesla was exposed to. Could you imagine the headlines if a Model 3 burst into flames and burned down a charger, the car, and maybe some surrounding area? Tesla would be the fall guy, even if it was a knock off adapter from some 3rd party...
I have been holding off buying the Tesla Chademo adapter hoping and praying they will release a CCS adapter, and hoping it will be capable of at least 150 kW charging speeds. At $500 I might buy one, at $400 I’d probably buy one, at $300 or less I’d order it immediately.
Do you have a source for the adapter limitation being tied to liquid cooling? To my knowledge, the 150kW CCS units are not liquid cooled, just like the V2 Superchargers.CCS in the united states has a no Adapter requirement due to the need for Liquid cooling which cannot be accomplished through an adapter.
CHAdeMO is bulky, low volume, and on the way out in the marketplace. So even ignoring the elephant in the room of power, CCS adapters are a far better choice.I hear ya. It would be nice. Even 100 kw would be nice. Chademo or CCS makes no difference to me.
CHAdeMO is bulky, low volume, and on the way out in the marketplace. So even ignoring the elephant in the room of power, CCS adapters are a far better choice.
And yes, I realize that BC is currently adding CHAdeMO and CCS in equal numbers but the world is overwhelmingly installing CCS so you can expect BC to change its installation choices sooner rather than later. It is just a question of following the market. My crystal ball does not tell me whether Tesla will win the plug wars or join CCS2 outside of Europe, but CHAdeMO is not even in the discussion
I'm not taking that bet.
By the way, are you happy with your Tesla in BC ?
Don't see any way this would be under $100. Too much tech, electronics and software for a limited demand device usually means a higher price. I bet it would be $250 or higher.
I don’t know that it’s really settled yet. The Monthly Plug Sales Scoreboard is apparently gone because they can’t get a lot of the data now, but Tesla is still outselling all the real long range EVs by a lot, and has a much bigger Charging network.
Unless that situation changes, Tesla plugs stand a pretty good chance of becoming the defacto US standard regardless of what the standards body run by the other automakers decides.
Possibly. I think the Tesla one is largely expected to be more in the $100 range and passive (in the sense that it’s much less tech in the adapter compared to the Chademo one which basically has a computer in it...)
At least the EU cars have the necessary communication and handshake protocols and hardware built into the vehicle charger so the adapter sold there is essentially a “dumb” one like the level 2 adapter...