Supercharger - Celebration, FL

[Larry Chanin]

Yes, it is likely that this is a version 2 Supercharger. However, just because a version 3 Supercharger terminal doesn't share the power of a Supercharger, that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be one Supercharger Cabinet per charging terminal. There still could be two individual Superchargers mounted within each Supercharger Cabinet, but each Supercharger is wired directly to a charging terminal. For example, Urban Superchargers do not share power between charging terminals either, but as in the case of regular version 2 Superchargers, there are still two individual 72 kW Superchargers mounted in a normal Supercharger Cabinet, but each Supercharger is wired directly to one charging terminal .

We wiIl need to see photos of the version 3 Supercharger gear before reaching any conclusions about how many Supercharger Cabinets will support version 3.

What we can be somewhat sure of is that the version 3 charging terminals, with liquid-cooled cables, will have thinner cables than the version 2 charging terminals.

If we can see a close-up, high resolution photo of the Supercharger Cabinets labels at the construction site, we will be able to read the kW capacity. For example, here is the labeling of the version 2 Superchargers at the Gainesville Supercharger Station which is close to being energized.

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Larry

I want to correct part of what I stated earlier about how to tell if a new Supercharger Station under construction is Version 3.

It is true the charging cables will be thinner. However, based on Tesla's blog article Introducing V3 Supercharging, there won't be Supercharger Cabinets labeled 250kW. There will be a new 1MW power cabinet with a similar design to Tesla's utility-scale products. So we need to see something that looks like this:

This is roughly over 7 feet tall by about 4 feet wide.

This cabinet is a lot bigger than the Supercharger Cabinets that have been installed so we can rule out this being a Version 3 Supercharger Station.

In addition, since we know that each charging terminal will have a capacity of 250 kW and that the new Cabinet has a capacity of 1 MW, we can figure that each Cabinet will be wired to 4 charging terminals. So an 8-stall station would need two of these utility-scale cabinets.

Larry

 

[EOppie]

Some more shots from today. There is still an area that has conduit up but nothing run but a pull string. Can't figure that part out. May just be another light.

They have definitely cleaned up the area as well so they may be nearing the end of work.

 

[Swampgator]

If anybody could get by there in the next couple of days and post an update that would be great. Heading up to Kissimmee Sunday from Fort Myers and this one would be great. Otherwise it's drive north to sand lake and charge before heading down to Kissimmee so I can make it back to Fort Myers. It's amazing how fast this one went up compared to the Gainesville 4 month project.

 

[cwginac]

If anybody could get by there in the next couple of days and post an update that would be great. Heading up to Kissimmee Sunday from Fort Myers and this one would be great. Otherwise it's drive north to sand lake and charge before heading down to Kissimmee so I can make it back to Fort Myers. It's amazing how fast this one went up compared to the Gainesville 4 month project.

I would be surprised if this opens up by then, sorry.

 

[tomservo1354]

I would be surprised if this opens up by then, sorry.

Yeah, I went by this afternoon And it looked like there hasn't been and change since the above pictures.
Also, I think the empty pad with the conduit is for the big green utility box from the power company. It's about the right size and there doesn't appear to be one anywhere on the site yet.

 

[Swampgator]

Thanks for stopping by and updating this thread.

 

[Larry Chanin]

It's amazing how fast this one went up compared to the Gainesville 4 month project.

It's true that there can be significant differences on how long it takes to get permits and build a Supercharger Station. In the case of Gainesville they applied for a permit on June 1, 2018. They didn't assign a General Contractor for quite a while and on February 15, 2019 they finally received Notice of Commencement. They broke ground within a few days. On April 17, 2019 the station was energized. So it took roughly 10 months from permit application to being energized, and roughly 2 months between breaking ground and being energized.

Even now the station is not officially operational. According to Butler Enterprises, additional landscaping is required and Tesla hasn't yet informed them, the host location, that the station is officially "commissioned". Currently the Gainesville station isn't shown on the navigation displays and still shows as "Coming Soon" on the Find Us map.

Update: On April 20, 2019 the Gainesville Supercharger Station was added to the navigation displays and noted on the Find Us map as active.

Larry

 

[BrownMS]

Hoping to swing by here on the 3rd and see progress

 

[Larry Chanin]

Hoping to swing by here on the 3rd and see progress

Welcome to the forums. If there is any progress, please post some high resolution photos.

Larry

 

[BrownMS]

will do

 

[DavidElg]

I swung by today at around noon. It didn't appear anyone was actively working on it. I suspect we are waiting on the metering equipment to be installed. I didn't want to trespass, so I took the photos below from the fence line.

 

[Larry Chanin]

I swung by today at around noon. It didn't appear anyone was actively working on it. I suspect we are waiting on the metering equipment to be installed. I didn't want to trespass, so I took the photos below from the fence line.

Hi David,
Thanks for the photos.
It appears that there has been no progress for 10 days.
Not only are we waiting on the metering equipment, but there's also no utility transformer or high-voltage switchgear.

Larry

 

[tpedwards]

Maybe the crew will turn their attention to Four Corners and have the power company install utilities and meters back to back.

 

[mociaf9]

Maybe the crew will turn their attention to Four Corners and have the power company install utilities and meters back to back.

Four Corners isn't ready to have any work done yet. Probably at least into June, at the earliest, before they get their building permit issued there (see my comment in that site's thread for my reasoning).

 

[DavidElg]

Swung by again today. Didn't take any pics, but something was happening there I don't quite understand. There was a red model 3 parked inside the gated area and a couple of people working. There was what appeared to be new supercharger shells leaning against each of the 8 superchargers. My assumption was the current covers were going to be replaced with these new ones, although I have no idea why since they appeared complete last week when I was last in the area. Anyway, my workplace is like 10 minutes away, so 'll keep this thread updated.

 

[mociaf9]

Swung by again today. Didn't take any pics, but something was happening there I don't quite understand. There was a red model 3 parked inside the gated area and a couple of people working. There was what appeared to be new supercharger shells leaning against each of the 8 superchargers. My assumption was the current covers were going to be replaced with these new ones, although I have no idea why since they appeared complete last week when I was last in the area. Anyway, my workplace is like 10 minutes away, so 'll keep this thread updated.

The techs from Tesla take off the back of the shells to get at the charging post internals and often just lean them against the remaining bit or lay them down next to it. My guess is that's what you saw, not full shell replacements. So, this could be them inspecting the installation or getting the location ready for commissioning. From your last set of pics, I didn't see either the switchgear or the utility transformer installed yet. Though there was that empty space with the conduit stubs sticking up near the supercharger cabinets which could possibly have been for either or both. If you go back and take more pics, try to get a shot that shows what, if anything, they've put in there. Thanks for the update.

 

[BrownMS]

seems like the gainesville sc also had a red tesla parked at it in the days before coming on line too

 

[BrownMS]

Swung by again today. Didn't take any pics, but something was happening there I don't quite understand. There was a red model 3 parked inside the gated area and a couple of people working. There was what appeared to be new supercharger shells leaning against each of the 8 superchargers. My assumption was the current covers were going to be replaced with these new ones, although I have no idea why since they appeared complete last week when I was last in the area. Anyway, my workplace is like 10 minutes away, so 'll keep this thread updated.

any further update?

 

[DavidElg]

any further update?

Did a quick drive-by today and saw it was being actively worked on. It appears they added a large green transformer and were in the process of wiring it all up. I'll take some pics in the next day or two.

 

[Helmuth]

Here’s a pic from yesterday...