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Chademo at Whole Foods

Discussion in 'North America' started by JPP, Nov 6, 2014.

  1. JPP

    JPP Active Member

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    The SF Bay Area has always been EV friendly, with lots of charging opportunities at parking garages, workplaces, and Whole Foods markets. These are almost universally J1772 (ChargePoint or Sema) with rare Blink stations. My local Whole Foods began some construction next to the existing 2 ChargePoint stations, hidden by opaque construction fencing. The fence is now down, and I see that they have installed 2 new charging stations. The left hand one is a Nissan branded Chademo station, and the right hand one is not completed but it looks like it will have 2 additional cables and connectors (not clear to me what these will be yet).

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    Not sure what the imposing pylon is in front of the stanchions (?electrical equipment). I do see some kind of RFID card reader on the Chademo unit--unsure of what network it would belong to.

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    Also not sure who paid for the hardware, and if it will still be free/no charge (as is the ChargePoint, though you of course need a ChargePoint account and RFID card).
     
  2. scaesare

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    Are the additional cables to enable the station to be a "combo" unit perhaps?
     
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    I have seen new charging stations at two of the Whole Foods I shop at. I confess I visit probably 4 different ones with frequency as I'm not particularly close to any one. I haven't stopped in close enough to see what type of connectors they are.
     
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    Attachment links not working for me.
     
  5. JPP

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    Sorry-something happened to the photos. Will edit post tonight (no access to photos now).

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    I don't see the additional cables attached to the right hand unit yet so cannot tell what type/voltage/current they will be.
     
  6. GRA

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    eVgo seems to have some sort of deal with Whole Foods, as they have or are installing Freedom stations at many of them. All new Freedom stations are required to be dual standard (CHAdeMO/CCS), and older CHAdeMO-only stations are required to be backfitted with CCS, often by installing a new dual-standard charger next to the CHAdeMo-only one.
     
  7. miimura

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    @JPP, what location are you talking about? The Cupertino and Los Altos Whole Foods locations host NRG eVgo Freedom stations. Both of those are CHAdeMO only right now. The Mountain View location in front of the Nob Hill Foods has to DCFC units, a Nissan CHAdeMO and an ABB SAE Combo charger. This is a good picture from PlugShare of the Mountain View location, showing all the equipment.

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    Starting from the left, a NRG branded ChargePoint L2, the Nissan CHAdeMO, the ABB SAE Combo charger, and their junction box and lamp post combo. Sometimes the junction box unit has an additional L2 unit that just has the J1772 cable and a card reader, without any kind of display.
     
  8. JPP

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    Lafayette CA Whole Foods. Yes, looks like in addition to the old ChargePoint L2 J1772, we are getting the Nissan CHAdeMo and some other kind of combo charger. Did not realize that the junction box can also be a lamppost. Photos:

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  9. miimura

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    That is the ABB Terra 53CJ. So, this location will have redundant CHAdeMO, one on the Nissan unit and one on the ABB unit. This is the way to go IMHO. The Mountain View location is really sub-optimal because it is SO much more likely that you could have two CHAdeMO cars there than one CHAdeMO and one SAE Combo car at the same time. Much better utilization of equipment for not much more money.
     

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