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CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3

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Last night I received the 2019.24.4 software update for our Model 3. So this morning I tested Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter to determine the rate of charge, and see how many miles I’d get and how long it would take to charge from a given SOC. Summary: 45 minutes gave me 139 miles of rated range and cost $8.69. Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter is easy to use and provides more charging options for the Model 3.

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A DC charger at a charging station in Sacramento.

This site where I charged has one DC charger with dual plugs to charge EVs with either CHAdeMO or CCS charging ports. It can charge one car at a time, delivers a maximum of 125 amps, and provides maximum power approaching 50 kW depending on factors such as state of charge, battery pack temperature, etc. I arrived at the station with 126 miles of rated range – 39% SOC – in our long range RWD Model 3.

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I arrived at the station with 126 miles of range / 39% SOC.

If you haven’t used CHAdeMO chargers before the plugs are substantial, and by that I mean big. But using the adapter, while not dead simple like a Supercharger, was straightforward and easy: I removed the CHAdeMO plug from its holster on the charger, connected it to Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter, and plugged the adapter into the Model 3’s charging port.

This station is operated by Greenlots. To start a charging session you either call their 1-800 number, use the Greenlots phone app, or a Greenlots RFID card. I have a Greenlots account and their RFID key fob so I held the key fob next to the labeled sensor on the charger and it verified my account. The charger provides you with easy to follows instructions. I pressed the button to select the CHAdeMO plug, and then pressed the button again to start the charging session.

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I connected Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter to the charger plug, plugged the adapter into my Model 3 charge port, and used an RFID card to start the charging session.

The charger delivered 22.8 kWh in the first 30 minutes, providing about 90 miles of rated range.

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This DC charger sent 23 kWh to the Model 3 in 30 minutes, adding 90 miles of rated range to the pack.

The session started with the charger delivering 42 kW when the battery pack was at 39%. The power slowly increased, hitting 49 kW when the battery pack reached 80% SOC. I didn’t charge long enough to see where the taper would begin, but I’m guessing that would be in the range of 80-85% SOC.

It took a total of 45 minutes to go from 39% to 81% SOC. This included the time it took me to plug in and initiate the session. In 45 minutes the charger delivered 33.7 kWh (according to Greenlots), adding 139 miles of rated range to the pack.

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The charging session started with the charger delivering 42 kW at 39% SOC, and the power slowly increased hitting 49 kW when the battery reached 80% SOC.

At this location Greenlots charges 25¢ per kWh, plus taxes and a 35¢ session fee. Total cost for this charge was $8.69, so just under 26¢ per kWh, which is comparable to the cost of using a Supercharger. The cost of using CHAdeMO chargers varies depending on the network that operates the station.

CHAdeMO charging stations are not Superchargers, yet. Some of the new stations coming online provide more than 125 amps, but I believe Tesla’s current CHAdeMO adapter will accept no more than 125 amps (please correct me if I’m wrong). CHAdeMO chargers don’t span the entire country, and generally don’t have as many charging stalls per site compared to most Supercharger locations. But some regions of the country have a good number of CHAdeMO charging locations that support EV drivers. So while 139 miles in 45 minutes is slower than a Supercharger, it’s better than L2 charging. Most importantly this gives us more charging options for road trips and regional travel.

I’ve used this station before to charge our 2012 Toyota Rav4 EV, thanks to Tony Williams’ CHAdeMO charging port, JdeMO. Adding the CHAdeMO charging port to our Rav4 EV expanded the horizons of that car, and I expect the CHAdeMO adapter to come in handy for our Model 3. I don’t expect to use it for local charging, but plan to use the adapter on longer trips we have planned.

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Quick charging my 2012 Rav4 EV at this station several years ago.

If you are new to EVs and want to know how to find CHAdeMO charging stations, Plugshare is a very good resource. Go to that website (or download the phone app), click on the filter tab, and select CHAdeMO (or any other type of charger) to find charging locations near you.

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Screen shot from the Plugshare.com website showing the location of CHAdeMO charging stations in the Atlanta area.

Final note: In the United States the two non-Tesla DC charging standards are CHAdeMO and CCS. The CHAdeMO charging standard was designed and promoted by Japanese power companies and auto manufacturers including Nissan and Mitsubishi. The Nissan Leaf, which came on the market in 2010, is the best selling EV with the CHAdeMO port. Other auto manufacturers use the CCS DC charging standard. Cars with the CCS port include the Chevy Bolt EV, BMW i3, VW e-Golf, and other European made EVs coming on the market. Ultimately cars with a CCS port will outnumber those with CHAdeMO. At some point Tesla may sell a CCS adapter for use in the United States, but there’s no indication of that yet.

This guest post from Steve Noctor originally appeared on his blog It’s Electric

 
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how long does it take the adapter to come in if ordered from the online store? my wife and i are on the east coast right now after a long road trip from so cal, and we're driving back either next week or the week after...we made it here just using superchargers without much of an issue, but i'm wondering if grabbing a chademo might not be a bad idea now for the trip back (and for future road trips we've been planning).

if it takes longer than a week or so to have it shipped from tesla, do the SCs carry it that i could call around and see if any have it in stock?
Ours took weeks and had no tracking information or shipment notification. Best not to depend on it arriving in a timely manner.
 
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Huh? It sounds to me like you are far from "stuck" and will have no problems at all. Get one in a few weeks or a month or two after you're back home. It's not an immediate need.

stuck as in we were hoping to get a bit more off the beaten path and explore a bit on the way home. yes, if i stick to interstates and the supercharger network, i know we'll be fine. i was hoping to have chademo as a backup in case we decide to explore a bit and get too far from a supercharger.
 
stuck as in we were hoping to get a bit more off the beaten path and explore a bit on the way home. yes, if i stick to interstates and the supercharger network, i know we'll be fine. i was hoping to have chademo as a backup in case we decide to explore a bit and get too far from a supercharger.

That's what RV parks are for. If you have your UMC and the 14-50 adapter for it...
 
i know that's what it *says*, but i've yet to be able to find anywhere that shows what each SC has in stock. unless i'm being obtuse and missing something blatantly obvious, which is also possible.

the online store also says you can select a pickup location on checkout, but doesn't let you do that either.
Oh it doesn't say what is in stock. Just that it's not worth calling SC's that don't stock accessories. Best of luck!
 
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As for DrivetheARC's pricing, the Lucky's at Bernal in SJ had one of the DC FC's free at any time w/reservation. However, I was required to update the app and sadly, it's gone now and only 1 DC FC is discounted. This is bad news as one could arrive and that DC FC could be broken. :( Oh well..
After not very long of that, it's changed back. One station at that location is discounted/free depending on the promo ticket you can get for that time. The other one is free by "reservation" only (no need to get a promo ticket).

Problem is if you show up and the reservation station is broken and you want/need to charge, you'll end up paying the discounted price on the other station, unless it's during the free time or you've received a special promo ticket from answering a survey that might come up. I've gotten 3 surveys so far but oddly, it seems like the 2nd promo ticket I got on that was supposed to expire on Oct 13 got canceled when I received another one that expires Oct 16th. :(

Not sure what was going on w/the above or if there was some user error on my part.
 
Now that the local DCFC station is charging for electricity ($0.19/kWh), I'm going to have to drive much further before breaking even, although I still do have access to a free station but it's almost 20 miles away. The main reasons why I bought the adapter was two-fold: Having access to the local (then free) ChargePoint station and opening up opportunities when traveling. I'm basically retired now so assuming this COVID-19 thing gets solved quickly and effectively, we're probably going to be taking some road trips.
I don't know where you're exactly located but from the Santa Clara County Water District to Lucky on 129 Bernal Rd (PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You) is 6.8 miles or 8 minutes per Google Maps. It is likely closer for you than Walmart on Ranch Drive in Milpitas. I mention both of those since they're both part of Home Page - DRIVEtheARC. Between certain hours at DTA stations, you can get free EV juice and other hours, you can get 0, 25, 50 or 75% discounts off EVgo prices.

Two stations (Pacific Pearl in Pleasanton (haven't been there yet) and one of the DC FCs at Lucky's) is free at any time if you get a "reservation" in their hokey app: https://drivethearc.com/how-to-use-the-app/. Just use sections 4 and 5. Ignore the rest. You may wish to click the filter button to only show DTA stations instead of DTA + EVgo stations.

The rest of the DTA stations you need to get a "promo ticket" that gives you 0 to 100% discount depending on time of day. Sometimes, they give special 100% promo tickets for filling out a survey that might pop up in their app. I've received a few of those. I used one earlier tonight (on expiration day) and receive another tonight that expires on 10/31.

BTW, the DC2 unit (Lucky's at Bernal free w/reservation at any time) has a damaged CHAdeMO connector. There might be a missing (thin) pin and some of the plastic is melted/deformed. A Leaf driver showed up and was unable to plug in properly with it. Since it was past 10 pm and free for the other station at the point, I swapped w/him (I drive a Bolt). I used SAE Combo for free w/"reservation" on DC2 and he used DC1 that had working CHAdeMO.

That driver called EVgo to report the problem and it's been noted in Plugshare now. Anyway, both of us got our supply of free EV juice tonight.

Summit House in "Los Gatos" is also a DTA site and seems to have very generous free hours. But, you need to make your way up and down the hills of highway 17. I also have not tried the chargers there yet.
 
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@cwerdna Thanks for the DTA info; I might take advantage of it. I certainly would if/when I start skiing again. I'm about a mile from the SCVWD location so while Bernal isn't that far away, I'm not out in that area too often anymore. We used to rent a storage locker near the Santa Teresa DMV several years back. It indeed is closer than Milpitas. That's about where my work used to be and is where the free charging station I mentioned earlier is. But I'm not in that neighborhood much either. Summit House could be a good choice for me when life returns to normal. We (used to) take trips to Santa Cruz fairly regularly so a quick stop for a charge could work, although I still want to try out the V3 Supercharger in Scotts Valley.

So far the local Superchargers and the SCVWD CHAdeMO are reliable enough and congestion-free to keep me charged whenever I want. I still have the intention of installing my HPWC in the garage but it's not a very high priority at the moment.
 
RayK and other potential DrivetheARC users (anyone outside Nor Cal, Sacramento and Tahoe area can ignore), download the app to get a feel for the locations and look at the discount timetable in the app to determine when it's free or worth going to a site (e.g. 50%, 75% or 100% discount) besides the free anytime w/reservation stations.

It's actually kind of funny that sometimes at DTA chargers, I've spoken to several drivers who've showed up to charge and didn't know about DTA and paid or were planning to pay EVgo to charge. In one case, one guy who didn't know much was charging his Bolt to nearly full and didn't understand the slowdown as the car approached full. He paid a pretty penny for his charge since EVgo is time based. He was also using ChargePoint roaming onto EVgo (starting an EVgo session w/his ChargePoint app or card).

For all of them, I've told them about it, showed them the app, etc. In some cases, I gotten the drivers to sign up then and to start their free charge. In other cases, I was about to leave and when it was free, I've started a DTA charge for them. I can only do one free/discounted charge at a time so if I'm charging, I can't start another free one.
 
Posted earlier today in a related thread.
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Yeah I've considered carrying something like that. Or using a tripod assembly of some kind to keep the size/weight down.
So I ordered this from Amazon last month: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VLDR4PX/

It's an inexpensive camera tripod that is meant to support the weight of the CHAdeMO adapter. Today I used it for the first time and it seems to do the job just fine:

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I probably should have extended the legs instead of elevating the center post in order to get the right height. That way it would not be too top-heavy. The handle of the CHAdeMO adapter rests in the crook of the tripod's handle and the adjustment knob for the camera mount:

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I'm happy with the <$10 solution to this problem.
 
BTW, the DC2 unit (Lucky's at Bernal free w/reservation at any time) has a damaged CHAdeMO connector. There might be a missing (thin) pin and some of the plastic is melted/deformed. A Leaf driver showed up and was unable to plug in properly with it. Since it was past 10 pm and free for the other station at the point, I swapped w/him (I drive a Bolt). I used SAE Combo for free w/"reservation" on DC2 and he used DC1 that had working CHAdeMO.

That driver called EVgo to report the problem and it's been noted in Plugshare now. Anyway, both of us got our supply of free EV juice tonight.
The above has been repaired. I arrived to my DTA reservation to find a Bolt charging somehow during my reservation slot. Turned out to be the repairman who had just replaced the CHAdeMO handle. He was able to charge as the EVgo folks remote started the charger to test it and so that they can get home.

A Bolt driver I know showed up and we discovered that the Reserve button is broken on the Android version of the DrivetheARC app. He's never been able to reserve. He uses Android whereas I'm an iOS guy that also carries and Android phone. I pulled out my Android phone and sure enough, the Reserve button is greyed out, just like for him. I was on app version 3.2.3 of both. I updated my Android phone to app version 3.3.0 and didn't help. Reserve only (at the moment) works on iOS, it seems.[/QUOTE]
 
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Kooser and Meridian (listed as Blossom Hill Road in Tesla's maps and the site of the old Orchard Supply Hardware and now home to Outdoor Supply Hardware) is where I normally charge. The rate there is $0.28/kWh. The stations in the Bass Pro parking lot (Cherry Avenue and Almaden Expy) are $0.31/kWh. At least they were the last time I checked.
Out of curiosity, given I heard of some price increases in another thread, have the above also gone up?
 
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Thanks!

For DrivetheARC, if you only have an Android phone, I'd recommend not going to/depending on a reservation station (Lucky at Bernal in SJ or Pacific Pearl in Pleasanton each have one of two set to that) until they fix their Reserve button on Android bug. Otherwise, you'll only be able to the use the non-reservation station w/promo tickets. iOS is fine.

If you want free juice and your Reserve button works, it's best to reserve a slot on the reservation charger during one of the times where you can also get a 100% discount promo ticket. That way, you'll have a decent chance of charging for free on either charger. There's always the possibility that one or both are broken...
 
The above has been repaired. I arrived to my DTA reservation to find a Bolt charging somehow during my reservation slot. Turned out to be the repairman who had just replaced the CHAdeMO handle. He was able to charge as the EVgo folks remote started the charger to test it and so that they can get home.

A Bolt driver I know showed up and we discovered that the Reserve button is broken on the Android version of the DrivetheARC app. He's never been able to reserve. He uses Android whereas I'm an iOS guy that also carries and Android phone. I pulled out my Android phone and sure enough, the Reserve button is greyed out, just like for him. I was on app version 3.2.3 of both. I updated my Android phone to app version 3.3.0 and didn't help. Reserve only (at the moment) works on iOS, it seems.
FWIW, the above CHAdeMO handle on the reservation station (DC2) at Lucky's at Bernal in SJ works.

A gen 1 Leaf driver pulled up as I was about to leave planned. He pulled up to DC1 and planned to pay EVgo. Apparently, he didn't know about DrivetheARC. I got him going on free charge via a reservation on DC2 CHAdeMO. I showed him the app, the web site w/the process to sign up and where the DTA chargers are. Charging was still going when I left. I suggested he sign up while waiting as charging stops once the reservation time slot is over.

I think he's the 4th or 5th person where I've had a DTA charging station encounter and they didn't know about DTA.