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CHAdeMO Charging the Model 3

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Last night I received the 2019.24.4 software update for our Model 3. So this morning I tested Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter to determine the rate of charge, and see how many miles I’d get and how long it would take to charge from a given SOC. Summary: 45 minutes gave me 139 miles of rated range and cost $8.69. Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter is easy to use and provides more charging options for the Model 3.

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A DC charger at a charging station in Sacramento.

This site where I charged has one DC charger with dual plugs to charge EVs with either CHAdeMO or CCS charging ports. It can charge one car at a time, delivers a maximum of 125 amps, and provides maximum power approaching 50 kW depending on factors such as state of charge, battery pack temperature, etc. I arrived at the station with 126 miles of rated range – 39% SOC – in our long range RWD Model 3.

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I arrived at the station with 126 miles of range / 39% SOC.

If you haven’t used CHAdeMO chargers before the plugs are substantial, and by that I mean big. But using the adapter, while not dead simple like a Supercharger, was straightforward and easy: I removed the CHAdeMO plug from its holster on the charger, connected it to Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter, and plugged the adapter into the Model 3’s charging port.

This station is operated by Greenlots. To start a charging session you either call their 1-800 number, use the Greenlots phone app, or a Greenlots RFID card. I have a Greenlots account and their RFID key fob so I held the key fob next to the labeled sensor on the charger and it verified my account. The charger provides you with easy to follows instructions. I pressed the button to select the CHAdeMO plug, and then pressed the button again to start the charging session.

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I connected Tesla’s CHAdeMO adapter to the charger plug, plugged the adapter into my Model 3 charge port, and used an RFID card to start the charging session.

The charger delivered 22.8 kWh in the first 30 minutes, providing about 90 miles of rated range.

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This DC charger sent 23 kWh to the Model 3 in 30 minutes, adding 90 miles of rated range to the pack.

The session started with the charger delivering 42 kW when the battery pack was at 39%. The power slowly increased, hitting 49 kW when the battery pack reached 80% SOC. I didn’t charge long enough to see where the taper would begin, but I’m guessing that would be in the range of 80-85% SOC.

It took a total of 45 minutes to go from 39% to 81% SOC. This included the time it took me to plug in and initiate the session. In 45 minutes the charger delivered 33.7 kWh (according to Greenlots), adding 139 miles of rated range to the pack.

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The charging session started with the charger delivering 42 kW at 39% SOC, and the power slowly increased hitting 49 kW when the battery reached 80% SOC.

At this location Greenlots charges 25¢ per kWh, plus taxes and a 35¢ session fee. Total cost for this charge was $8.69, so just under 26¢ per kWh, which is comparable to the cost of using a Supercharger. The cost of using CHAdeMO chargers varies depending on the network that operates the station.

CHAdeMO charging stations are not Superchargers, yet. Some of the new stations coming online provide more than 125 amps, but I believe Tesla’s current CHAdeMO adapter will accept no more than 125 amps (please correct me if I’m wrong). CHAdeMO chargers don’t span the entire country, and generally don’t have as many charging stalls per site compared to most Supercharger locations. But some regions of the country have a good number of CHAdeMO charging locations that support EV drivers. So while 139 miles in 45 minutes is slower than a Supercharger, it’s better than L2 charging. Most importantly this gives us more charging options for road trips and regional travel.

I’ve used this station before to charge our 2012 Toyota Rav4 EV, thanks to Tony Williams’ CHAdeMO charging port, JdeMO. Adding the CHAdeMO charging port to our Rav4 EV expanded the horizons of that car, and I expect the CHAdeMO adapter to come in handy for our Model 3. I don’t expect to use it for local charging, but plan to use the adapter on longer trips we have planned.

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Quick charging my 2012 Rav4 EV at this station several years ago.

If you are new to EVs and want to know how to find CHAdeMO charging stations, Plugshare is a very good resource. Go to that website (or download the phone app), click on the filter tab, and select CHAdeMO (or any other type of charger) to find charging locations near you.

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Screen shot from the Plugshare.com website showing the location of CHAdeMO charging stations in the Atlanta area.

Final note: In the United States the two non-Tesla DC charging standards are CHAdeMO and CCS. The CHAdeMO charging standard was designed and promoted by Japanese power companies and auto manufacturers including Nissan and Mitsubishi. The Nissan Leaf, which came on the market in 2010, is the best selling EV with the CHAdeMO port. Other auto manufacturers use the CCS DC charging standard. Cars with the CCS port include the Chevy Bolt EV, BMW i3, VW e-Golf, and other European made EVs coming on the market. Ultimately cars with a CCS port will outnumber those with CHAdeMO. At some point Tesla may sell a CCS adapter for use in the United States, but there’s no indication of that yet.

This guest post from Steve Noctor originally appeared on his blog It’s Electric

 
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Wasn't sure if there was a better place to post this but as I posted on MNL:
Saw new pics added to PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You. Interesting that they're using DC FCs from Delta (Taiwanese company) and Signet. I've not personally seen these styles of DC FCs before (not that I've used that many).
That is an interesting EVgo installation. The Delta chargers are 100kW on CCS and CHAdeMO while the Signet chargers are 350kW on CCS and 100kW on CHAdeMO. There are two pedestals of each type. I assume the big cabinets are for the Signet chargers even though they are closer to the Delta pedestals. I can't really tell from the low resolution Plugshare pictures.
 
@RayK : Good news, I think.

So, I called ChargePoint support as I noticed a session on the DC2 (P) public DC FC at the water district supposedly by a Model Y. DC1 ("restricted", kinda most of the time) also allegedly had a session by an unknown car. Previously, ALL the failed sessions (mine and everyone else's) wouldn't show up in the app. I asked them about that and whether there had been some recent successfully sessions where there was above 0 kWh dispensed and all. I even told them about the two sessions. They claimed nope, they're still broken.

As you probably recall, DC1's previously last actual (?) session was 12/26/2020. DC2 (P)'s were last on 1/1/2021.

So, I wasted $ to subscribe to EVgo $8/mo plan to charge at the Walmart down the street until I started tapering. After I finished my eating and errands, I tried the water district DC2 unit for kicks. It actually worked (!) on the CCS side, at least. I charged my Bolt on it for 41 minutes.

Obviously, the CSR had bad or inaccurate info. We'll see if my $8 to EVgo is wasted and whether the water district's DC FC's stay working.
 
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... So, I wasted $ to subscribe to EVgo $8/mo plan to charge at the Walmart down the street until I started tapering. After I finished my eating and errands, I tried the water district DC2 unit for kicks. It actually worked (!) on the CCS side, at least. I charged my Bolt on it for 41 minutes.

Obviously, the CSR had bad or inaccurate info. We'll see if my $8 to EVgo is wasted and whether the water district's DC FC's stay working.

If you are a AAA member, you can beat the $8/month EVgo fee: EVgo Promotion
 
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If you are a AAA member, you can beat the $8/month EVgo fee: EVgo Promotion
Thanks. Unfortunately (?), I'm not.

Whenever I finally get vaccinated (still not eligible in my county), I'm considered fully protected as best as I can be from it, and I start working at the office again, I won't be needing do pay for charging due to free L2 charging at work combined w/my short commute (under 13 miles each way).

Who knows what craziness will happen on April 15th, when the CA floodgates are opened?
 
Thanks. Unfortunately (?), I'm not.

If one is already a AAA member, it seems like a good thing to have "just in case". If one was considering the $8/mo plan and not a AAA member, it almost pays for the AAA membership.

Whenever I finally get vaccinated (still not eligible in my county), I'm considered fully protected as best as I can be from it, and I start working at the office again, I won't be needing do pay for charging due to free L2 charging at work combined w/my short commute (under 13 miles each way).

Who knows what craziness will happen on April 15th, when the CA floodgates are opened?

Yeah - they really screwed over Santa Clara County by sending much of our allocation down to So Cal. So I did a mini-road trip and drove to Roseville the other day to get one. Logged a new Supercharger on the way home.
 
@RayK : Good news, I think.

So, I called ChargePoint support as I noticed a session on the DC2 (P) public DC FC at the water district supposedly by a Model Y. DC1 ("restricted", kinda most of the time) also allegedly had a session by an unknown car. Previously, ALL the failed sessions (mine and everyone else's) wouldn't show up in the app. I asked them about that and whether there had been some recent successfully sessions where there was above 0 kWh dispensed and all. I even told them about the two sessions. They claimed nope, they're still broken.
I'll give it a try tomorrow. I'm down to about 175 miles.
 
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Cool. DC2 (P) at the water district I noticed had two more recent sessions after mine, by a Leaf and by "unknown car".

For kicks, you can also try the "restricted" DC FC (DC1). It's currently set to be "open" Sat and Sun 5 am to 11 pm, but I think I've seen it occasionally allow outsiders outside of those hours.
 
@cwerdna Wasn't able to get out Sunday but I did get to the water company's public Chargepoint station on Monday. Works again for me! Initially pulled 45kW when the battery was just under 50% (153 miles) and it tapered off to 23kW when it was done charging at 90% (276mi). Didn't bother checking out the other (restricted) station since weekend hours had expired. Maybe next time. Session ran 44 minutes for 31.6kWh and $6 even.
 
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@RayK - The next time you are out near an Electrify America site, check to see if their displays are showing "complimentary session" on them. The almost never are they were on 3/3/21 at the Kooser location and likely the whole network that day and maybe the day after from reports like at Complimentary charging on EA today in Tennessee... and Good day to charge at EA, and yet another reason why I....

I got lucky again on Friday night (4/2) at Kooser and picked up 41 kWh. On Sat (4/3) night, I saw that ones over at Oakridge were that way but I couldn't stop to test due to needing to go a supermarket before they closed. I dropped by Kooser again and found they were free again/still and topped off. On 4/2 and 4/3, even the J1772 EVSE at Kooser was showing complimentary. Back on 3/3, it was down w/an error or unavailable.

As usual, nobody else was there charging at either site.
 
@cwerdna I'm over near the Oakridge ones about once every three weeks as I hit the Starbucks or BofA nearby. I was not aware of the ones at the Kooser side of the Princeton Plaza shopping center as I generally do not have any reason to go over there.

I just installed the EA app on my tablet (Samsung Galaxy Tab A 2019) and registered a Pass account. For some reason the app did not show up in the Google Play Store on my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge phone. Investigation revealed the app is not compatible with my phone (what?) and I'm not upgrading my free phone just to install this app. I don't see using EA stations on a regular basis, mainly due to the $0.43 / kWh cost if charged per kWh. Although if CHAdeMO use is priced per minute ($0.16/min. and assuming ~45kW) then it may be closer to the water company Chargepoint cost and also less than Supercharger cost. But free sessions will work for me!
 
Someone in MA at Electrify America complimentary sessions (stations set... reported they were free at noon Eastern time.

Yes, sadly, EA prices are high now for most per kWh states (43 cents or 31 cents per kWh, the latter with $4/mo Pass+). For the complimentary sessions, if the display says that, you don't need anything (app, credit card, etc.) You just plug in and it'll start.

The time based states are cheap. Look up TX, for example at Pricing and Plans for EV Charging | Electrify America.
 
Was still free today at Kooser at 6 pm Pacific. As I was leaving, a gen 1 Leaf pulled up to use the CHAdeMO plug. He seemed to have no idea it'd be free. He plugged in and was charging for free when I left.

I wonder if this is nationwide.
 
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Wild. All Kooser EA DC FCs were still all free on Monday night. The J1772 EVSE wasn't though. This is the longest I've seen it that way.

I pinged the Bolt + Taycan driver about it and he and confirmed 10 mins ago he's charging for free. He mentioned that he'd charged his Taycan in Gilroy (today?) and didn't see complimentary.
 
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@RayK And others w/the CHAdeMO adapter can rejoice on Thurs April 22nd: Electrify America NEWSROOM. Only problem is them having only 1 CHAdeMO handle vs. usually 5-7 CCS. Worst I've seen pics of is 1 CHAdeMO vs. 19 CCS.

Reston, VA (April 20, 2021) -- On Earth Day, Thursday April 22, electric vehicle owners will get free charging sessions at all Electrify America ultra-fast charging stations.

Electric vehicle drivers can locate a charging station by visiting the Electrify America website.

The company will not charge EV drivers for sessions starting at 12:00 a.m. EDT April 22 on through to 3:00 a.m. EDT April 23.