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Charge point 16A and 32A, Zevenbergen, The Netherlands

Discussion in 'Europe' started by Adm, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Adm

    Adm Active Member

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    I will have a 16A mode 3, type 2 charger installed in June, but I am considering having a 32A charge point as well.

    What should the connector type be? I know Widodh has a blue CEE 32A connector.
     
  2. widodh

    widodh Model S R231 EU

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    If your charging station is going to be Mode 3, why not choose the IEC 62196 connector (Type 2)?

    I guess it won't be long now until Roadster owners can charge from a Mode 3 station without the UMC.

    Btw, the reason why I choose the Blue CEE 32A connector is that it's a 1-phase connector. I saw no point in placing a Red 3-phase connector while the cable is single-phase.
     
  3. Adm

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    The 16A charger will be with the Mennekes connector. I believe that´s the IEC 62196 connector?

    I just got a message from Tesla Benelux that some Roadster drivers use the red connector. I guess this would mean I could have the installer draw 3-phase cable to the charge point. I guess the UMC just uses one of the phases, but this way I would be ready when 3-phase charging will be possible.
     
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    From what I understand, if you buy the 32A UMC pigtail in the UK you get the blue connector, whereas if you get the same 32A in mainland Europe you get the red connector. Can you confirm that?
     
  5. Eberhard

    Eberhard #421 Model S #S32

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    I have the red CEE connector + adapter to the Blue CEE
     
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    So the red connector is on the UMC and then you have a blue->red to attach to the end of this? e.g.:

    Blue -> Red -> Black California -> UMC -> Car
     
  7. Eberhard

    Eberhard #421 Model S #S32

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    Yes, we got the Red one on the UMC, but I replace it with a Blue one.

    We carry a Red > Blue converter with us, so the other way around then Eberhard.

    But to give Adm a answer, I would go for the IEC 62196-2-2 (Type 2) connector for both the 16A and 32A point. The Nissan Leaf will get 32A too, so Leaf owner will be able to charge there to.
     
  9. Eberhard

    Eberhard #421 Model S #S32

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    Because, most of the public 32A socket are Mennekes-type = ICE 62196?, i want to have an adapter for the Mennekes for my UMC as quick as possible. Otherwise most of the public charging stations in Germany are off limit for me.
     
  10. widodh

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    Mennekes is just the manufacturer, they make all kinds of connectors, my Blue connector at the office is from Mennekes: http://blog.widodh.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/20110125_013-1024x769.jpg

    The official name of the "Mennekes" connector is: IEC 62196-2-2 (Type 2), as found on Wikipedia

    So my advise to Adm, stick to the standard in NL:

    VDE-AR-E_2623-2-2-plug.jpg
     
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    Yes I have Mennekes-made 60309s too. But the nickname "Mennekes EV connector" seems to have stuck :)
     
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    I can confirm that the UK UMC is supplied with the blue connector.
     
  13. Eberhard

    Eberhard #421 Model S #S32

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    #13 Eberhard, Jun 23, 2011
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    i got now the 32A blue single phase adapter for the UMC
     
  14. widodh

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    We have two charging stations with those in Middelburg, you're welcome!
     
  15. Adm

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    I will have to wait for the type 2 mode 3 220V/16A charge point until the end of summer, but I do have a red 380V/32A CEE socket placed.

    So if you happen to be near Zevenbergen and you need some extra juice just drop by during opening hours of my shop or let me know if it's outside opening hours and we'll see if I can arrange something. (The charge point is behind a closed gate after opening hours.

    Antiques Centre Zevenbergen
    Schansdijk 26
    4761 RH - Zevenbergen
    info at acz dot nl
    Opening hours: monday, tuesday and friday 09:00 - 17:00
    Saturday 10:00 - 17:00, Sunday 11:00 - 17:00

    I'll be closed for vacation from July 11th until July 22nd.
     

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