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Charger Space Usage Monthly Fee

Discussion in 'Hong Kong' started by Jonathan Tse, Apr 29, 2017.

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Does your management office impose a monthly fee for using your charger in your parking space?

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  1. Jonathan Tse

    Jonathan Tse Member

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    Hi everyone!

    I am curious about how much your management office demands for a monthly fee after you have installed a charger in your parking space. Why I do this? Recently I have a debate with my friends who also install charger in their parking spaces. I found that there are huge difference. For example my estate charges $3,000 for deposit and $200 for monthly fee. One of my friends does not require deposit and monthly fee, while another one require a $20,000 deposit and no monthly fee.

    Property Developer/Estate Deposit Monthly Fee
    Nan Fung 3000 200​
     
  2. ponyo

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    Does the monthly fee include unlimited charging?
     
  3. Jonathan Tse

    Jonathan Tse Member

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    No. You need to pay your electricity bill.
     
  4. mattse

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    So you get a new meter and your own charger installed in your own parking space, you pay your own electric bill, and your car park charges you monthly fee? What is that for?
     
  5. Jonathan Tse

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    They call it a monthly usage fee for the wall. They explain that I bought the car park space which does not include the wall. Therefore, I need to pay a fee which is similar to renting a space to other third parties like HKT, HGC, etc.
     
  6. mattse

    mattse Member

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    well.....they are good at it... i guess you have no option but paying the monthly fee? even a lawyer can't help you in this case
     
  7. gabeincal

    gabeincal Enjoying Napa life the electric way

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    Install the charger on the floor :)
     
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  8. Captain_Kong

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    Clever thought!

    But unless you can run all the wiring through your private property and not touching common area, this is hard to implement...
     
  9. Jonathan Tse

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    I don't think I go for lawyer although it is unfair. Having a charger space for EV is as essential as a space for parking your bike. Bike parking is 200 per year only!
     
  10. mattse

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    And you don't actually occupy any space that will affect anyone else

    What happened is just common HK way of business, if they can pay, make them pay more
     
  11. Jonathan Tse

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    The charger is installed on a wall facing my car. Nobody cares about it UNTIL I ask for it.

    The government should legalise the right of car park owner to install the NECESSARY charger without unnecessary approval by management office and owner's committee. Otherwise, clean energy and clean air are quite difficult to achieve.
     
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  12. T.E.S.L.A

    T.E.S.L.A Member

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    Welcome to the rip-off and corruption that is Hong Kong.
     
  13. markwj

    markwj Moderator, Asia Pacific

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    Where's the corruption in this?
     
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  14. T.E.S.L.A

    T.E.S.L.A Member

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    Corrupted morals and values here in Hong Kong, being unprincipled.

    Or wait, maybe morals and values are actually firstly needed before they can become corrupted...
     
  15. mkq786

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    May i know how much usually you pay monthly bill for the electricity if u charge daily at home? I understand it depends on your driving habits so u may estimated bss certain mileage. Just for my ref if its worth to install own charges which so far my management does not allow :-(
     
  16. Vmax

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    My electric bill is less than 20% of what my usual fuel costs were.
    If you have to rely on Superchargers, it's definitely recommended to have your own charging facility at home. Superchargers are quite crowded.
     
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  17. T.E.S.L.A

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    #17 T.E.S.L.A, May 10, 2017
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    The price of electricity in Hong Kong works out to around HK$1 per kW. Average would be between HK$0.2 - HK$0.3 per km.

    With an average ICE car, with the price of gasoline in Hong Kong you end up paying about HK$1.5 per km.
     
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  18. Jonathan Tse

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    My monthly bill is around HKD250. Before I switched to EV, my bill is around 2500 on my Accord 2.4.
     
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  19. Jonathan Tse

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    For those of you who did not cast a vote, please do so. I also like to know which estate you are parking in. Thx a lot!
     
  20. markwj

    markwj Moderator, Asia Pacific

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    That is the base residential, or commercial, rate. Note that most home owners sharing their main house meter will be paying more than that. Up to HK$2/kWh. If you are adding EV charging to your home, have a look at your last bill and the highest rate you are paying - that is likely what you will be paying for EV charging.

    CLP now offer the option of installing a second meter for EV charging facilities that is charged at the non-residential rate and brings the cost down to closer to HK$1/kWh (but you need to pay for installation of that second meter and associated wiring).
     
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