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Charging at Waterville Valley??

EKnight47

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Aug 11, 2013
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Milton, MA
I have a 70D, live 10 miles south of Boston and would love to drive my Model S to Waterville this season (every weekend starting Thanksgiving), but not sure it's really doable with the cold weather. Any knowledge of charging stations in the immediate Waterville Valley Resort area? Can't find anything on Plugshare and don't want to drive the opposite direction to Lincoln every weekend before heading home. I can get there, but not sure I can get back to Hooksett.
 

North75

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Mar 28, 2017
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MA
My parents live in Watervile Valley. I don't think there are any L2 or higher chargers in town yet. My mom has been trying to get the town or the mountain to add some, but I don't think she's had any success yet.
It's about 70 miles from the Hookset chargers to Waterville, so 140miles round trip. You don't really need to drive your car much while in town as you can take the shuttle bus up to the mountain and back. I would think if you could plug into a 120V outlet for the weekend you would have enough range to make it back to Hookset at the end.https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/find-new/posts

This doesn't take traffic into account though. I'm not sure how much range the heater will take up while you are sitting in traffic in Concord.
 

EdA

Model S P-2540
Mar 24, 2011
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234
Cape Cod
Seems like a spot in need of chargers!
Call Waterville and get them on Tesla's destination charger program.
 

figers

X60D Owner
Aug 2, 2016
84
20
Chestnut Hill, MA
if you are worried about range I'd drive the 20 minutes to Lincoln and charge there... how much time does that add on to your trip overall? At least until another charger comes on-line
 

North75

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Mar 28, 2017
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MA
It's more than 20 minutes to the chargers in Lincoln, and will be a major PIA at the end of a ski weekend since you will be hitting the traffic coming out of Loon Mt. I'm guessing it could add 1-1.5 hours to a 2-3 hour trip.
 

EKnight47

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Aug 11, 2013
261
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Milton, MA
North75 - nail on the head. No chance I am driving an extra hour (30 minutes each way) not including charge time. I have emailed and called a bunch of different people at WV asking about their interest to install chargers. They even have a section on their website about their focus on being "green" and limiting the amount of idling and drop offs, etc. I used that as a perfect reason to install chargers to further the effort.

getting the 70D up to a full charge before leaving Hooksett also adds a good amount of time to the trip. As we all know, once it gets to the top it goes a lot more s l o w l y.

My goal is to find a 120V outlet because I will be taking the shuttle to the mountain and walking anywhere else. If I can get an extra 50 miles while being plugged in, that'll cover the first 10 actual miles as the car warms up :)

So....as I thought...no chargers. If anyone has any 120V spots, please let me know!
 

North75

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Mar 28, 2017
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MA
Keep in mind that the mountain, the Waterville Valley Resort or whatever its called now is separate from the town government, and while cordial they don't necessarily see eye to eye on everything, or have the same budgets. (My dad is a Selectman)

You may want to attempt to petition the town as well as the resort if you haven't done so already.

Town of Waterville Valley, NH
 

EKnight47

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Aug 11, 2013
261
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Milton, MA
Quick update.....Tim Smith (President at Waterville Valley) has been super responsive and has taken action! He said he contacted Tesla about their charging partner program and filled out all of the paperwork, but hasn't heard boo from them since. He'd hoping it just takes a bit for them to respond, but he's shooting for destination chargers in the town square area of WV. Fingers crossed.

Is there anyway to call Tesla's attention to his application?
 
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EKnight47

Member
Aug 11, 2013
261
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Milton, MA
And of course now the feedback I am getting from the resort President is that "it's a bit more complicated than he originally thought" and "he doesn't have a timeline at this point". I am curious to find out if the complications are on his end or Tesla's.
 

tga

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Apr 8, 2014
3,866
2,678
New Hampshire
And of course now the feedback I am getting from the resort President is that "it's a bit more complicated than he originally thought" and "he doesn't have a timeline at this point". I am curious to find out if the complications are on his end or Tesla's.
FWIW, I know of a location in NH that was approved for the destination charger program, but they bailed when they realized they were on the hook for installation. They originally thought that installation was included with the equipment.
 

Fiver

Active Member
Apr 10, 2015
1,853
1,544
Utah
FWIW, I know of a location in NH that was approved for the destination charger program, but they bailed when they realized they were on the hook for installation. They originally thought that installation was included with the equipment.
Installation (up to a point at least) is included in the destination charging program. The location should only be on the hook for the power.

Granted if installation is going to be insanely $$$ they won't cover all the costs though.

/edit. I've seen them cover up to $5k at times, but they try and stay under $3k unless it's a important location.
 

tga

Supporting Member
Apr 8, 2014
3,866
2,678
New Hampshire
Installation (up to a point at least) is included in the destination charging program. The location should only be on the hook for the power.

Granted if installation is going to be insanely $$$ they won't cover all the costs though.

/edit. I've seen them cover up to $5k at times, but they try and stay under $3k unless it's a important location.
Interesting. Is that a recent change, or has it always been that way? If a recent change, I could ask the location to reconsider if Tesla would foot the bill. Although maybe there was another reason (like not wanting to give up parking spaces in their small lot).
 

Fiver

Active Member
Apr 10, 2015
1,853
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Utah
While it is suggested that the spots in front of the chargers be dedicated for EV charging, there is nothing in the contract saying they have to be. Our destination charging spots are general parking. You should ask again about getting the chargers installed. Usually it's more the location doesn't want to deal with it... Tesla is super generous about destination charging installation costs if you qualify.
 

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