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Charging in Upstate New York (or maybe Vermont)

Discussion in 'North America' started by Doug_G, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. Doug_G

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    #1 Doug_G, Jan 28, 2012
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    We've had a few conversations scattered around the forums, so I'd like to consolidate a discussion on charging in the "EV wasteland" of upstate NY. (I'm not including New York City in this, since there are many options available there.) We'll also include Vermont since there are alternative routes there.

    Whenever a charge location gets added to the list, I'll edit it into this first post.

    NEW YORK

    J1772 30A 208V (confirmed) right outside front door Albany NY Downtown Hotels | Albany Holiday Inn New York

    NEMA 14-50 Ithica, NY, being installed by neroden

    Watertown Hilton Garden Inn has a "30A or 40A" outlet at the right side door (reported by a friend, wasn't sure of plug type).

    VERMONT

    Level 1 (not tested) A Romantic Vermont Inn - The Inn at Weathersfield - Rustic Luxury and Gourmet Dining in a Romantic 1792 Inn

    Tesla HPC and NEMA 14-50 (confirmed) Jericho VT - private garage. Tesla owners welcome to charge with advance notice. Contact forum member ViperDoc [email protected]

    Tesla HPC (confirmed) Thetford VT - private outdoor charger available off I-91. Will be posted shortly on Open Charge Map (per hcsharp).

    Tesla HPC (confirmed) Putney VT - private HPC that has been made available to Roadster owners. PM hcsharp as he can contact the owner for you.

    Level 1, Level2 (not tested) Home | Healthy Living Market and Cafe | South Burlington, VT
     
  2. Doug_G

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    #2 Doug_G, Jan 28, 2012
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    My personal interest in this: I have a trip coming up, where I am going to drive from Ottawa, ON to Suffern, NY in late April. I'd like to take my Roadster.

    I have a friend in Binghamton who has offered to put a NEMA 14-50 in his garage. If I can make it that far I can make it to Suffern. Assuming I can get 110V at the hotel I will be able to return there a few days later.

    There appears to be a hotel in Albany with an EV charger. So if I can get to either Albany or Binghamton I can get to Suffern.

    Of course, if there's a faster way I'm all ears!
     
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    #3 Doug_G, Jan 28, 2012
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    This is from New publicly sponsered charging network across Québec.

    Can you provide more information on 70A charging in Thetford VT, Putney, VT, and New Haven, CT? Are these private locations?

    It might be possible to get to Utica, NY, but I'd have to stop somewhere before that for charging. In the summer I could go to the Ganonoque KOA, but they don't open until May 4, a couple of weeks after my trip.
     
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    #4 agileone, Jan 28, 2012
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    You should check for " realness ", but from the alternative fuel website :


    For Vermont :


    Central Vermont Public Service Corporation
    Electric
    2154 Post Rd
    Rutland VT 05701
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 888-758-4389
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours

    Healthy Living Market and Caf?
    Electric
    222 Dorset St
    South Burlington VT 05403
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 888-758-4389 802-863-2569
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours

    Saint Michael's College
    Electric
    30 College Pkwy
    Colchester VT 05446
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 888-758-4389
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours



    For New York :


    Results 1 to 10 of 83 (see rest here : Alternative Fuels and Advanced Vehicles Data Center: Alternative Fueling Station Locator)

    New York Institute of Technology - Central Islip Solar Carport Station
    Electric
    300 Carleton Ave
    Central Islip NY 11722
    Type: Level 1
    Phone: 516-686-1007
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Private access only


    New York Institute of Technology - Old Westbury Solar Carport Station
    Electric
    Valentines Ln and Northern Blvd
    Old Westbury NY 11568
    Type: Level 1
    Phone: 516-686-1007
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Private access only


    NYSERDA Headquarters
    Electric
    17 Columbia Cir
    Albany NY 12203
    Type: Level 1
    Phone: 503-892-7345
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Private access only


    Saratoga Technology & Energy Park
    Electric
    10 Hermes Rd
    Malta NY 12020
    Type: Level 1
    Phone: 503-892-7345
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Private access only


    Central Hudson Gas & Electric
    Electric
    284 South Ave
    Poughkeepsie NY 12601
    Type: Level 1
    Phone: 503-892-7345
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours


    Hudson Valley Community College TEC-SMART Building
    Electric
    345 Hermes Rd
    Malta NY 12020
    Type: Level 1
    Phone: 518-629-7075
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours


    Car Charging Group, Inc - Icon Parking
    Electric
    350 W 50th St
    New York NY 10019
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 888-758-4389
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours


    Beam Charging - Sylvan Pinnacle Garage
    Electric
    112-01 Queens Blvd
    Forest Hills NY 11375
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 718-520-1403 888-758-4389
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours


    Edison ParkFast #168
    Electric
    113 10th Ave
    New York NY 10011
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 888-727-5327 888-758-4389
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours


    Beam Charging - Duford Studios
    Electric
    127 E 83rd St
    New York NY 10028
    Type: Level 1, Level 2
    Phone: 212-535-2890 888-758-4389
    Distance: NaN Miles
    Access: Public - see hours
     
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    This is from Tesla DC charging network

    Rochester isn't useful, unfortunately, due to its location.

    Watkins Glen... might be fun to visit the track!
     
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    #6 hcsharp, Jan 28, 2012
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    Doug first I'd like to thank you for organizing this info. I travel this area several times a year so this is very useful.

    Thetford VT is private but available for public use, outdoors with a Roadster plug, 4 mi off I-91 on a main road. More info will be posted shortly on Open Charge Map database.

    Putney is private Roadster owner and while he has not made his HPC public per se, he has invited other Roadster owners to use it. PM me if you think it would be useful for your trip and I will contact him.

    New Haven CT has a well-known HPC in the basement of the Omni Hotel half a block from Yale campus. Great location for places to eat, shopping, cultural events at Yale, etc. Great for traveling to/from NYC and Boston or other points north. They also have a juice bar (J-1772). Pay for parking, juice is free.
     
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    Finding something half way between Ottawa and Albany would make that a perfect trip. Tesla held 3 events in VT last year, all at small inns with a restaurant. Two of them they plugged into a NEMA 14-50 in the restaurant kitchen. The third one had some kind of outdoor equipment with a 240V outlet that they used at 40A. With enough work I'm sure you could find something along that stretch.

    Downtown Albany Holiday Inn is a nice hotel and the J-1772 port is right outside the front door - couldn't be more convenient! The staff are friendly to EV owners and they like it when you call ahead to reserve the port.
     
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    I've tried to use this multiple times but they won't let me (or anyone else). Pisses me off. They got a grant to help pay for it, too. Their excuse is that the VT Public Service Board will not let them sell the power because it can't be regulated because it's entirely off the grid. But in their monthly newsletter that comes with my bill they wasted no time touting their concern for the environment including their "green" investments like all the EV charge ports they were (supposedly) going to install last year (they didn't). They have another charging station in Rutland that they won't let you use either because it's private - only for their own vehicles. But they love to brag about it.

    This is new and haven't used it but sounds good! I'll check it out as soon as I can and report back.

    St Michael's claims it isn't really public but I've never heard of them stopping anybody from using it. Not very close to downtown Burlington.
     
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    #10 agileone, Jan 29, 2012
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    If you decide to go the "long" way, by going down thru Vermont, since there seems to be more charging stations on that side than upstate NY, you could stop for the night in Montreal.

    You best bet today, in Montreal, is the Sheraton hotel downtown :

    Le Centre Sheraton
    by Coulomb Technologies
    Address
    1201 Boulevard René-Lévesque
    Montréal, Québec
    Phone
    (888) 758-4389
    About
    For public use, open 24/7.
    Charger Types

    EV Plug (240v J1772)
    Station offline.
    Standard Outlet (120v)

    P.S. In a year from now, I could have left my Model S outside and offered you my garage, but not yet there... :)
     
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    #11 Robert.Boston, Jan 29, 2012
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    The Inn at Wethersfield states:
    Unfortunately, only Level 1, and only available to registered guests.
     
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    New Haven is full of EVSE options. In addition to the aforementioned Omni hotel, there is an EVSE at Union Station, and chargers in the city parking garages at 155 Temple St. and 260 Crown St.
     
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    Montreal is only a two hour drive from here; if I'm going to stay overnight somewhere I'd rather do another hop first. Do you know what the deal is at the Sheraton? Do I have to stay there to access the charger?
     
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    Thanks for the info. I've pondered whether to add Connecticut and Massachusetts into the list, but they've got higher population densities and it's a bit easier to find charge points there. What I'm trying to do is establish some EV travel routes through the very lightly populated areas south of the Canadian border. The target audience is people in upstate NY / VT and ON / QC.
     
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    #15 neroden, Jan 29, 2012
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    I can't actually get this working. Not without signing up, which I won't. There's just a blank grey space in the middle of the screen.

    EDIT: Got it working. It requires allowing Facebook Connect to track your Internet activity, which I don't think is appropriate. Anyway, it does seem to think that there are public J1772s in Syracuse -- mostly by Blink, but also at Burdick Nissan -- and at the Maguire Nissan dealer in Ithaca. I don't know whether any of them are for real; you'd probably have to call and check. If I make it to Syracuse any time soon (which is kind of unlikely) I may go around and check all of them.
     
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    What about the myriad chargers mentioned in the Quebec thread?
     
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    #17 dhrivnak, Jan 29, 2012
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    With plug-share for one to get the full benefit, at least on the Android app you need location services set up as it shows all charging opportunites near you.

    After being burned by two other charging lists that had phantom chargers that could not found on a long trip, I have been pleased with the accuracy of Plug Share at least for Tennessee.
     
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    There are only a handful of these chargers out there at this point. By the end of the year, there should be 90 across the province.

    Your only option in Montreal today is the downtown Sheraton.
     
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    I will try to find out this week....
     
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    should check if the EVSEs at the AMT station at Ste Dorothee in Laval are open to others that are not in their pilot program. There is a volt that is parked and plugged in there most days of the week but there are two charge stations available ...
     

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