Charging Station standards

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Charge Point Network

A Car Charging Infrastructure Takes Shape

Having shipped hundreds of electric vehicle charging stations, and with repeat orders now coming in from Europe, Coulomb Technologies, a privately-held Silicon Valley company, expects to be profitable by the 2010 introduction of the Chevy Volt, according to its chief executive, Richard Lowenthal.

(Mr. Lowenthal appears in the video, explaining the company’s ChargePoint Network.)

“Our plan was to sell a thousand stations, but we will probably double that,” he told Green Inc. last week after the company secured its third Bay Area order this year. “Our company is structured to be profitable based on early adopters.”

Founded in 2007, Coulomb is looking to crack the chicken-and-egg riddle that bedeviled the hydrogen fuel cell industry. Without a refueling infrastructure, consumers won’t buy vehicles. But no one invested in refueling stations without potential customers on the road.

These guys are doing a few of what we have been talking about, too bad it's only a pay for use system.
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[malcolm]

Padlockable sockets with integrated switch. Available in 16, 32 and 63A variants.

http://www.electrikahost.co.uk/products/m/man-0552/pdfcat/leg07-458.pdf

 

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http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=1828&fPicId=116120

 

[dpeilow]

That's one of the common Elektrobay posts that you see across London. EDF have involvement with them.

You are far more likely to see a G-Wizz plugged into one than a plug in Prius.

 

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I like the part that looks like cast aluminum. Smooth and rugged.

Will Martin need to make a Foundry pigtail for this plug or will Tesla have a equivalent "MC120" for it?

Come on J1772! (say it like throwing dice in craps)

 

[dpeilow]

That's the UK domestic plug, so Tesla's lowest common denominator charger will no doubt have it (240V, 13A).

 

[EVnut]

These guys are doing a few of what we have been talking about, too bad it's only a pay for use system.

A Coulomb rep has called to speak with me about their ideas....and I've failed to do that. Bad Darell.

One thing that this vid reminded me of - when you sign up for the service, you choose "night charging", "grid friendly" or "anytime." Deciding what you want in advance is a tough one. What if you night charge 95% of the time, but want the option of a daytime charge on one trip? Seems to me that you should be able to charge any time, and just pay different rates for the different times - not sign up in advance for what you think you'll want to do. The whole concept of this privatized way to charge is that EV drivers will be happy to gasoline rates for charging an EV. I'm not sure that's going to be the case. People who drive EVs already know that home charging is where it's at. Those who haven't experienced EVs think that public charging is a MUST for everybody. And yes, I realize that there are those with no place to charge at home...

And now I'm rambling.

 

[dpeilow]

http://www.elektromotive.com/resources/EBConnect_Diagram.pdf

Note "dynamic site availability reporting"

 

[dpeilow]

Underwriters Laboratories approves SAE J1772 charging plug

The SAE standard J1772 charging connector for plug-in vehicles passed another threshold on its way to finalization this week. Underwriters Laboratories has completed its certification testing on the connector developed by Yazaki. The UL testing has verified the safety and durability characteristics of the 5-pin connector. Virtually all of the automakers from the U.S., Japan and Europe are planning to use the standard plug on upcoming electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles, including in the Chevy Volt.

 

[bobw]

Does it seem GM's using it already?

 

[EVnut]

For that matter, it *seems* that Tesla is as well. They all look very similar, and can all have different "shells." The devil is in the details.

 

[bobw]

Until a little while ago, pictures of the the Volt charging port looked like this:



Here's how it looked on the concept car:



Now it looks like the first picture I posted.

Changes cost money. It would make sense for GM to avoid unnecessary changes. If they didn't have a final socket design but knew they had to move the port would they go to that much trouble?

 

[Young]

Until a little while ago, pictures of the the Volt charging port looked like this:



Here's how it looked on the concept car:



Now it looks like the first picture I posted.

Changes cost money. It would make sense for GM to avoid unnecessary changes. If they didn't have a final socket design but knew they had to move the port would they go to that much trouble?

Yes, I read from somewhere that Volt will be using J1772 standard.

 

[EVnut]

Yes, I read from somewhere that Volt will be using J1772 standard.

They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't! (not that they don't have exeprience with that...)

 

[mt2]

They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't! (not that they don't have exeprience with that...)

I half expected GM to invent their own "standard". And then change it each model year.

 

[TEG]

Sonoma County Welcomes Electric Vehicles With Plans For 200 Charging Stations : TreeHugger

 

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USA NC

McCharging

Watts are free at new McDonald's - Technology - News & Observer

CARY -- When it opens Tuesday, the McDonald's at 1299 Kildaire Farm Road will be the country's first McDonald's with an electric vehicle charging station.

 

[malcolm]

Fast food and slow charging?

220 V, 16A for 0.5 hours = 1.76 kWh

Is anyone going to want to stay longer?

 

[ChargeIt!]

Fast food and slow charging?

220 V, 16A for 0.5 hours = 1.76 kWh

Is anyone going to want to stay longer?

May be that's the point ? Slow charging = More Food ?

 

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European

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