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Discussion in 'Hong Kong' started by Vmax, Mar 1, 2014.
Would this be the right cable?
J1772 to 62196-2 32A Electric Vehicle Charging Plugs / Cable
Thanks mark. I guess no benefit for me in that case.
Hmm I just noticed the official HK specifications page took off the J1772 adaptor!
It's now showing:
10 kW capable on-board charger with the following input compatibility: 85-265 V, 45-65 Hz, 1-40 A (Optional 20 kW capable Twin Chargers increases input compatibility to 80 A)
Peak charger efficiency of 92%
10 kW capable Universal Mobile Connector with 220 V adapters
That cable is for cars with J1772 sockets to connect to charging stations with 62196-2 sockets. In this case, it sounds like the charging station has a J1772 plug.
It wasn't there at launch, for Hong Kong. They don't have one for European style sockets, yet.
I still haven't got a reply from Tesla about this. Interesting find, I guess they realise that people are going to demand the best charging capability in HK, unsurprisingly. Problem for me is that I have my electrical guy coming this week to do some other work and I would be a good chance to wire my charging point if I was confident what to put in.
Ask him to put a supercharger in, while you are at it, then you are covered!
And when you get a visit from another Tesla owner/driver, all it takes is one cup of coffee and the visiting car is fully charged!
The key question is what do you have at your MCB?
If your MCB has hundreds of amps free, then run an 80A circuit to be ready for the HPWC when it comes.
If you are current limited, but want a fixed installation, then run wires for 40A to be ready for a reduced-current HPWC when it comes.
If you are current limited, and want mobility, then put in a 32A single phase blue socket.
At this point, given what Tesla is saying, I would not suggest a 13A BS1363 socket.
I wouldn't currently (sic) bet on the 3phase red socket being supported here at the moment. Anyway, for home charging, overnight 32A single phase is plenty.
Why doesn't Tesla give us all available charging options with the car? 32A 3-phase is available here. No point to limit it single phase!
I'm a bit concerned about your last point, i.e. "...given what Tesla is saying, I would not suggest a 13A BS1363 socket."
What did Tesla say? Why do you not suggest it? It's what I have at my car park now, and when I asked Linda, she said it would be fine!
13A will take an 85kwh battery 30 hours to charge.....
Yes, but how often would you run the battery down to 0%? That must not be the only reason?
I second AppleFan, who will mind that? Who in Hong Kong drives 500 km in one day, anyway, unless it is for commercial reasons (taxi, limo, delivery etc)
Maybe Mark is thinking of continuous load on a 13A socket - whether or not it is designed for that.
Faster charging = more convenience.
Nothing has been announced, but a lot is being talked about. All I'm hearing is rumours at the moment - and people who know me know that I hate to and wont spread rumours. From what I am told, Tesla are hard at work trying to finalise things, and I guess we'll know in a week or so.
My quoted reply was to Lerxt, who has an electrical guy coming this week. If I had to install something this week, that is what I would do.
For others, we have time, and I suggest it is best to wait for Tesla's official word on what they will be providing with the car, and what adaptors will be available. For home use, with your own socket, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I agree, and that's exactly what I'm doing. I don't even have a parking spot yet as I live at apartment building and currently has no car. So there's nothing I can do until Tesla announces concrete technical details/guidelines for the whole installation/charging issue for the Model S in HK. Only then will I be able to negotiate with my estate with the necessary details on hand and find a parking spot where I can install the EVSE properly. At this moment, I don't even know the exact arrival date of my MS so I'm not going to rent a spot now and start paying for nothing.
HK EVpower guaranteed me in writing, that their charging box will charge the Tesla HK version. Believe the box can adapt to different standards.
My situation is the same as yours, if not worse. I'm patient. Things will work out soon.
Just that sometimes I will think out-of-the-box, like maybe, I can park my car somewhere outside Starbucks are use their socket with a super long cable.
My Chinese is not great but I think the Chinese Model S specs page still says will come with J1772 adaptor?
The HK Tesla webpage will be updated soon to reflect the newly revised Hong Kong Model S charging strategy. The Model S is capable for 3-phase charging but Tesla does not have a 3-phase EVSE available yet as it is still under regulatory approval, I am told. Since we have 3-phase feed going to our property, I have revised my order to include twin charger to take advantage of 3-phase charging should Tesla releases their 3-phase EVSE.