Thanks for making my point for me
You point is you are anti-EV?
Whatever floats your boat. I hate housecats but that doesn't make me want to join housecat forums.
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Thanks for making my point for me
So, the EU might become the "New CARB", driving emissions reduction and the transition to electric cars? Interesting proposition...Pedantically speaking all cars are compliance cars. If they weren't they wouldn't comply with seatbelt/abs/smog/xxx regulations.
TBH I think what will be interesting is how the EU's 2019 regulations play out. It's no coincidence that is when the EU manufacturers are all claiming starting EV production. The interesting thing the EU legislators have done is to make the penalties for CO2 emission painful enough the firms can no longer simply pay off the fines, but also forced it to be on decent sales volume, not just a super low volume model in their line up.
So, the EU might become the "New CARB", driving emissions reduction and the transition to electric cars? Interesting proposition...
This is optimistic, but your overall point is spot-on. I'm going to buy a Model 3 because I can and want to support Tesla, and I have succumbed to the joy of all EV driving, but the Prius Prime in my driveway is a study in efficiency. I use it for my 90 mile work commute, and in our 3 months of ownership the car is at 112 mpg lifetime. That is a fantastic result from an 8.8 kWh battery and in widespread use would be much better since average car trip, even in the US, is considerably shorter.each consuming 40-50% less gasoline, thereby cutting emissions of ~20 cars. In effect, hybrid cars' efficient use of batteries is 20 times more powerful compared to a pure EV with 60KWh battery
TBH I think what will be interesting is how the EU's 2019 regulations play out. It's no coincidence that is when the EU manufacturers are all claiming starting EV production. The interesting thing the EU legislators have done is to make the penalties for CO2 emission painful enough the firms can no longer simply pay off the fines, but also forced it to be on decent sales volume, not just a super low volume model in their line up.
If and when battery demand outstrips supply your point will require careful consideration. As it is, the important metals are recycled so I don't have any qualms about being a battery pig today or for the next decade. I do agree with you that public subsidy would be best directed at PHEVs. In conjuction with a carbon tax the entire chain could be revenue and cost neutral and speed up the decarbonization of transport dramatically.According to my math, with one new 35 GWh gigafactory built each year, it will take 200 years to transition the 2B cars to pure EVs, which may be a little too late.
GM pulling out of Europe was a sign of how the market's becoming less important, and it wasn't worth it to beat it's money-losing Opel/Vauxhall there.
You probably mean well, but conspiracy theories are not actually 'pro-EV', they are 'anti-EV' and help fuel the contempt many people, including the author of the article in question, have towards EV technology.
It's a pretty valid conspiracy theory when the conspirators admit that they're conspiring to hold back EVs....
There A LOT of downside and very very little upside for the LAMEs (Legacy Auto Manufacturing Enterprise) when it comes to the tradition to EVs. FUD is in their best interest. Kinda silly not to call them out on it.
It's a pretty valid conspiracy theory when the conspirators admit that they're conspiring to hold back EVs....
There A LOT of downside and very very little upside for the LAMEs (Legacy Auto Manufacturing Enterprise) when it comes to the tradition to EVs. FUD is in their best interest. Kinda silly not to call them out on it.
So you believe that GM owns oil wells, and is a division of Fiat since 2014? And GM gets CARB credits for non-CARB overseas sales due to a magic spell they cast? And that the minimum req is no longer 16kWh, but is now actually 60kWh?
If and when battery demand outstrips supply your point will require careful consideration. As it is, the important metals are recycled so I don't have any qualms about being a battery pig today or for the next decade. I do agree with you that public subsidy would be best directed at PHEVs. In conjuction with a carbon tax the entire chain could be revenue and cost neutral and speed up the decarbonization of transport dramatically.
35 GWh (one Nevada GF)
Your FUD would be more realistic if you looked up the actual capacity of the Gigafactory.
"Its projected capacity for 2018 is 50 GWh/yr of battery packs and its final capacity upon completion of entire factory is 150 GWh/yr. This would enable Tesla to produce 1,500,000 cars per year."
"In May 2017 at a TED Talk, Elon Musk stated his intention to announce three of four new Gigafactory sites." [my emphasis]
While your at it, look up TaaS.
Thank you kindly.
Or the cars being offered are just plain not sellable (short range, poor styling, no advertising, no dealer incentives to sell them, etc.) Bear in mind that dealers hate electric cars as much as ICE car manufacturers do, so neither put any effort into selling them, and try hard to steer the customer into an old fashioned car.if EVs can't even grow by 0.5M each year in worldwide sales, it means EVs are being forced upon people.