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Chevy Bolt at Supercharger
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You know... it's rather brilliant:
-It provides a service to all EV's
-Is a goodwill gesture
-It gives those L2 EV owners several hours to stare longingly at the dozens of Teslas zipping in and out in 20-30 minutes, thus generating free advertising and potential sales impressions...
GM really should make the CCS port standard. A CCS-less Bolt is a crippled Bolt, at least to me.
ai4px
Wes
Just looked that one up on plugshare. Awesome.... but if that little clipper creek EVSE beside all those superchargers could speak, it'd be saying "Wait for me guys!!"
There are a couple of Supercharger sites on the New Jersey Turnpike that have EVgo fast charging stations right next to them. As part of the deal to let Tesla install Superchargers at these rest areas, the NJ DOT required Tesla to wire the sites so that future non-Tesla fast charging stations could one day be installed. Like those EVgo stations.
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You're confusing them with people who care.
seattlite2004
Active Member
With an adapter...the Bolt's could use Tesla Destination Chargers. Adapter is pricey....but it works well with the Tesla HPWC and MC
And in essence takes something that Tesla does not appear to be offering to them.
I find the existence of that adapter unfortunate, and would discourage folks from using it.
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
Stealerships derive the majority (~74%) of their revenue from disservice (repairs and replacements).
Little wonder they do not incent their sales minions to sell vehicles that ostensibly require less disservice relative to an ICE.
I saw a Dolt pull into a stall at Hawthorne (see image upthread) a few months ago. Security immediately directed the hapless wretch (whose salesperson told him the night before that indeed, he could charge anywhere) around the shrubbery to an empty bank of Clipper Creek L2s.
Said hapless wretch couldn’t get those to work either, so he limped home to charge there.
It’s just going to get worse. I look forward to a ubiquitous standard for green paint and signage - including a combination of “This is not a parking space - EV charging only.” and a simple municipal no parking sign - per stall.
And fines/towing for parking in a green space that are equivalent to those for red and blue zones today.
Harrumph.
/goml
Little wonder they do not incent their sales minions to sell vehicles that ostensibly require less disservice relative to an ICE.
I saw a Dolt pull into a stall at Hawthorne (see image upthread) a few months ago. Security immediately directed the hapless wretch (whose salesperson told him the night before that indeed, he could charge anywhere) around the shrubbery to an empty bank of Clipper Creek L2s.
Said hapless wretch couldn’t get those to work either, so he limped home to charge there.
It’s just going to get worse. I look forward to a ubiquitous standard for green paint and signage - including a combination of “This is not a parking space - EV charging only.” and a simple municipal no parking sign - per stall.
And fines/towing for parking in a green space that are equivalent to those for red and blue zones today.
Harrumph.
/goml
seattlite2004
Active Member
Its the proprietor that is offering the electricity....is it not? Its no different than if one uses a J1722 adapter when charging up their Tesla at a "public" charging station.
skitown
Member
Did Tesla supply the hardware for free to this proprietor?
seattlite2004
Active Member
Dont know...why does it matter? If Chargepoint, Clipper Creek, or Juicebox L2 J1722 chargers were there (regardless who paid for them)..Telas could use those to charge also...could they not?
skitown
Member
seattlite2004
Active Member
Yep...IMO if the proprietor will allow it...I'm gonna use it...even if I dont have a Tesla.
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skitown
Member
Because Tesla paid for the hardware and gave it to the proprietor. ??
Maybe my momma raised me wrong, but I would consider it stealing. If there were Chevy branded proprietary chargers (or whatever), paid for by General Motors to attract Chevrolet EVs, I would never use a 3rd party, non-GM approved adapter to charge on one of those chargers.
Maybe my momma raised me wrong, but I would consider it stealing. If there were Chevy branded proprietary chargers (or whatever), paid for by General Motors to attract Chevrolet EVs, I would never use a 3rd party, non-GM approved adapter to charge on one of those chargers.
seattlite2004
Active Member
If the proprietor gives the OK to charge...I'm charging...but if available, I'll use the non-Tesla L2 if I'm in a non-Tesla EV...if not...I'm using the Tesla EVSE to juice up.
Hey...even bro1999 is using the adapter...NICE: bro1999's blog: Charging your Bolt EV at a Tesla destination station? Yes, you can!
Hey...even bro1999 is using the adapter...NICE: bro1999's blog: Charging your Bolt EV at a Tesla destination station? Yes, you can!
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I think the hardware is provided by Tesla, but then all the electricity and management of the unit is done by the business that owns it. Which is the larger cost, I would imagine. There are a (very) few places that do charge Tesla owners for use of their destination chargers. Most do require you to be a paying customer at least. If I ask at a hotel as a paying customer, and they are OK with it, then I see no issue. The hardware is theirs to use as they see fit as far as I know.
I guess it is like the EVGo units around town and at dealerships that are part of the BMW and Nissan free charging program. Those manufacturers paid money to be a part of that program and put those chargers in. I still use those chargers and don’t really feel any issue with it even though I am not a BMW or Nissan customer. I am an EVGo customer in that case.
Pretty sure I've debated this with you already, but if the hotel/business owner says it's ok, then it's ok. They are paying the electricity bill.
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