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Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion

Discussion in 'Energy, Environment, and Policy' started by Raffy.Roma, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. Raffy.Roma

    Raffy.Roma Active Member

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    Actually it's not a matter of a game in my opinion.
    CO2 produced by ICE cars is responsible of temperature increasing in the world. As temperature increases ice at the North pole melts. As ice melts the salt concentration in the sea decreases. As the salt concentration in the sea decreases the current of the Channel decreases. When the current of the Channel will stop the North side of the Earth will get frozen.
    Have you seen the film "The day after tomorrow"?
    This film shows what will happen when the current of the Channel will stop. So driving pure electric is useful to save the Earth.

    Do you still want to game?
     
  2. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    #2 bonnie, Feb 3, 2013
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    [mod note: some early posts moved from Have you met the 'i hate all things ev' guy yet? thread (if context is needed) ]

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    Relax, please. It's just friendly banter. We will not convert people to EV by bashing them over the head. Just my opinion.
     
  3. Raffy.Roma

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    I am relaxed. I only wish to point out some things. This forum is nice just for this reason. We can exchange our points of view in an open way.
     
  4. Kaivball

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    Sorry, I don't subscribe to the man made global warming fraud.
    Science is clear that temperatures increase, THEN CO2 increase. Al Bore is a giant fraud and his "documentary" is filled with it.
    The CO2 produced by ICE is a tiny, tiny fraction of all CO2 produced. But I digress... :)

    PS: please, don't watch a Hollywood movie and think you understand climate
     
  5. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Let's not make it personal. The last sentence is unnecessary. Topic here is how to respond to the people who hate EVs, not global warming.
     
  6. brianman

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    Then Raffy's first post is off-topic and should probably be moved.

    Unless of course you want another "I hate X implies I hate Y implies 'I hate Republicans/Democrats'" style "intelligent and productive" debate. ;)
     
  7. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    We usually allow 1 or 2 posts off-topic before moving. Tolerance level for personal digs is pretty much zero.
     
  8. SwedishAdvocate

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    #8 SwedishAdvocate, Feb 3, 2013
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    Ok… I hope you can excuse (?) a mere simpleton (and Swedish at that), but now I’m a bit confused…


    Isn’t man made global warming/climate crisis THE number one argument for EV’s?


    Ok... So why is the temperature increasing then?

    Here’s a conclusion of the vast majority of the scientific community – the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) – whom in 2007 said (the under linings are mine, and all footnote numbers within these {} and these [] brackets are hyperlinked at the source, which is included and linked below):

    @Kaviball: What do you base your belief on?
     
  9. brianman

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    Pre-Tesla, yes. Post-Tesla, no.
     
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    This is certainly one approach to take. To me it's a bit like saying that you don't subscribe to the microbial theory of disease because you can't see the little critters. And that will work fine until you get pneumonia.

    Neither of us are climate scientists, so arguing the science is unlikely help. However, if we continue to ignore the ever louder cries of the climate scientists, we do so at our peril. As I see it, the risks of ignoring climate change is much higher than the risk of acting.
     
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    Wait, I thought the thread was about "global warming". What is this "climate change" thing?
     
  12. Zapped

    Zapped Model S - PURE EV

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    New lingo... more "politically correct".

    CO2 ? ...... what every happened to CO, POLLUTION and deforestation; the real problem IMHO.
    Power of the media is amazing.
     
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    #13 SwedishAdvocate, Feb 3, 2013
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    Which word is not "PC" - "global" or "warming"? I never fathomed they changed the terminology for "PC" reasons.
     
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    #15 SwedishAdvocate, Feb 3, 2013
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    It sure is (!) According to Fox News et al. – all it takes is 0,1 % of the scientific community and viola – there’s still a debate (!) Kind of like debating whether the sky at noon on a sunny day is blue or pink… Really amazing…
     
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  17. SwedishAdvocate

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    Good point.:wink: How about this one then:cool::

    Kind of like debating whether the sky at noon on a sunny day is blue or pink… Really amazing…

    (Updated my original post: Global Warming Discussion - Page 2)
     
  18. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Had I known the *discussion* would go in this direction, I would have named the thread something else. Good news was that I had the foresight to move it to this subforum, where I am not a moderator ... so nothing I can do about it now. :)
     
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    These conversations do nothing to help Tesla.
     
  20. Zapped

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    Its' the reason I bought a TESLA :smile:
     

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