Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion

[ZsoZso]

The end of new ICE sales should be no later than 2025. 2035 should be the last year it's legal to register an ICE. Maybe they can add a tax on fools fuel for the next 15 years then buy any remaining ICE at fair market value with the fund. Crush 'em and stack 'em into a wall on the southern border so everyone gets a little bit of a win....

They picked 2035 for cars and 2045 for trucks, because they are pretty certain nobody would be buying ICE versions of those by that date anyway, so it is a nice PR stunt with zero teeth.

ps: I would say they even applied ~5 years of buffer, based on battery day reveal it is safe to predict zero ICE car sales beyond 2030.

 

[mspohr]

They picked 2035 for cars and 2045 for trucks, because they are pretty certain nobody would be buying ICE versions of those by that date anyway, so it is a nice PR stunt with zero teeth.

ps: I would say they even applied ~5 years of buffer, based on battery day reveal it is safe to predict zero ICE car sales beyond 2030.

It does put everyone on notice to start accepting the new reality. Many people are in deep denial

 

[nwdiver]

ps: I would say they even applied ~5 years of buffer, based on battery day reveal it is safe to predict zero ICE car sales beyond 2030.

.... when was the last time you were in the states? Things are.... a lot... a lot... a lot dumber now. Stupidity appears to be embedded as part of 'merican culture. anti-intellectualism has been dialed not to 11 but probably to ~15, then they broke the knob off and ate it.

I estimate ~3 more years until we're watering our crops with Gatorade 'cause it's got electrolytes. 'yall might want to get started on a wall. Or... you know what... I bet a sign that says Canada =>, then another that says Canada => a few feet away, then a third that says Canada ^, will keep most of us out.

 

[msm859]

.... when was the last time you were in the states? Things are.... a lot... a lot... a lot dumber now. Stupidity appears to be embedded as part of 'merican culture. anti-intellectualism has been dialed not to 11 but probably to ~15, then they broke the knob off and ate it.

I estimate ~3 more years until we're watering our crops with Gatorade 'cause it's got electrolytes. 'yall might want to get started on a wall. Or... you know what... I bet a sign that says Canada =>, then another that says Canada => a few feet away, then a third that says Canada ^, will keep most of us out.

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Yes, Idiocracy here we are. It was suppose to take 500 years Except at least in Idiocracy they had enough brain cells left to realize that they should elect the smartest person as president. Today they take price in their stupidity and dismissing those intellectual "elites".

 

[mspohr]

Pakistan’s Most Terrifying Adversary Is Climate Change Opinion | Pakistan’s Most Terrifying Adversary Is Climate Change

This is a climate war between the large industrial superpowers, financial predators that have polluted and poisoned our planet for profit, and the poor, who have done the least damage but will pay all of the consequences. Pakistan is responsible for less than 1 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, but its people will bear the burden of the world’s deadliest polluters. If nothing is done to mitigate global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the World Bank, 800 million people in South Asia will be at risk of amplified poverty, homelessness and hunger.

 

[eevee-fan]

Despite Major Health Risks, Trump's EPA Plans To Leave Millions Of Lead Water Pipes In The Ground

More lead should help to prevent action against climate change and also get us closer to Idiocracy.

 

[nwdiver]

Despite Major Health Risks, Trump's EPA Plans To Leave Millions Of Lead Water Pipes In The Ground

More lead should help to prevent action against climate change and also get us closer to Idiocracy.

In a way I can't blame them. Best way for them to preserve their voter base is keep lead in the water.

 

[mspohr]

40% of world’s plant species at risk of extinction

Two in five of the world’s plant species are at risk of extinction as a result of the destruction of the natural world, according to an international report.

Plants and fungi underpin life on Earth, but the scientists said they were now in a race against time to find and identify species before they were lost.

 

[mspohr]

Denmark: We can slash CO2 by 70% in a decade and still have welfare

COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - Denmark said on Tuesday that it could reach its 2030 climate target of reducing emissions by 70%, one of the world’s most ambitious, without compromising its generous welfare benefits.

Last year, parties across the aisle passed a law committing Denmark to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 70% from 1990 levels, or around 20 million tonnes of CO2 equivalent, within 10 years.

In a climate plan published on Tuesday, the government estimated that the annual cost of implementing the shift to greener technologies would rise to 16-24 billion Danish crowns ($2.5-$3.7 billion) by 2030 - or 0.7%-1.0% of gross domestic product.

 

[ggies07]

Summary: Stratification plays an important role in ocean ventilation, ocean heat, carbon intake, water mass formation, tropical storm formation, ocean oxygen levels, biological depletion, and the AMOC.

Increasing ocean stratification over the past half-century | Nature Climate Change

Seawater generally forms stratified layers with lighter waters near the surface and denser waters at greater depth. This stable configuration acts as a barrier to water mixing that impacts the efficiency of vertical exchanges of heat, carbon, oxygen and other constituents.

We find that stratification globally has increased by a substantial 5.3% [5.0%, 5.8%] in recent decades (1960–2018) (the confidence interval is 5–95%); a rate of 0.90% per decade. Most of the increase (~71%) occurred in the upper 200 m of the ocean and resulted largely (>90%) from temperature changes, although salinity changes play an important role locally.

Increasing stratification has important climate implications. The expected decrease in ocean ventilation2,5 could affect ocean heat and carbon uptake4,10, water mass formation2 and tropical storm formation and strength3. The associated decrease in ocean mixing, moreover, is consistent with a decline in ocean oxygen concentration5,6, reduced nutrient flux7 and alteration of marine productivity and biodiversity7,10,43, as observed. Regions (for example in the North and tropical Pacific and South Atlantic) with the maximum increase in stratification correspond to regions of known de-oxygenation44. This is expected, given that more than 80% of observed global ocean oxygen decline is associated with enhanced stratification and consequent weakening of deep-water ventilation and biological depletion associated with the inhibition of nutrient supply5. It underscores the consistency between observed physical and geochemical climate change impacts.

 

[S'toon]

Humans have to slow down greenhouse gas emissions if they want to curb Greenland's ice loss, a new study has found.


The research, published on Wednesday in the journal Nature, says the rate of the ice loss in Greenland this century will likely outpace that of any other century over the past 12,000 years.


The largest pre-industrial rates of mass loss — up to 6,000 billion tonnes per century — occurred in the early Holocene epoch, according to the study, and it's about equivalent to the rate of modern day ice loss this century, which is around 6,100 billion tonnes per century.


The ice loss could result in mass amounts of fresh water pouring into the oceans, which can disrupt sea currents.


Though the Arctic has seen natural dips over the centuries, this ice loss is unusual because it can be attributed largely to human activity, says the lead author of the study, Jason Briner. He's a professor of geology in the University at Buffalo College of Arts and Sciences.


"The reason for this dramatic ice loss this century is all the warmth in the Arctic, which is warming a lot faster than the globe on average. And that seems to be the case because of greenhouse gases in our atmosphere," Briner said.

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Full article at: Greenland is losing ice faster this century than any previous one in last 12,000 years, says study

 

[mspohr]

Dramatic changes in the Arctic suggest climate change could return Earth to Pliocene conditions of 3 million years ago

As the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has shown, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are higher than at any time in human history. The last time that atmospheric CO2 concentrations reached today’s level – about 412 parts per million – was 3 million years ago, during the Pliocene Epoch.


As geoscientists who study the evolution of Earth’s climate and how it creates conditions for life, we see evolving conditions in the Arctic as an indicator of how climate change could transform the planet. If global greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise, they could return the Earth to Pliocene conditions, with higher sea levels, shifted weather patterns and altered conditions in both the natural world and human societies.

 

[mspohr]

Council Post: How Clean Energy Can Prepare For The Next Attack

: As clean energy continues taking market share from powerful incumbents, we’ll be contestants in a medieval jousting tournament. Shouldn’t we arm ourselves with better responses, given the certainty of future attacks?

 

[mspohr]

Amazon near tipping point of switching from rainforest to savannah – study

Much of the Amazon could be on the verge of losing its distinct nature and switching from a closed canopy rainforest to an open savannah with far fewer trees as a result of the climate crisis, researchers have warned.

Rainforests are highly sensitive to changes in rainfall and moisture levels, and fires and prolonged droughts can result in areas losing trees and shifting to a savannah-like mix of woodland and grassland. In the Amazon, such changes were known to be possible but thought to be many decades away.

Any shift from rainforest to savannah would still take decades to take full effect, but once under way the process is hard to reverse. Rainforests support a vastly greater range of species than savannah and play a much greater role in absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

 

[ggies07]

Amazon near tipping point of switching from rainforest to savannah – study

Much of the Amazon could be on the verge of losing its distinct nature and switching from a closed canopy rainforest to an open savannah with far fewer trees as a result of the climate crisis, researchers have warned.

Rainforests are highly sensitive to changes in rainfall and moisture levels, and fires and prolonged droughts can result in areas losing trees and shifting to a savannah-like mix of woodland and grassland. In the Amazon, such changes were known to be possible but thought to be many decades away.

Any shift from rainforest to savannah would still take decades to take full effect, but once under way the process is hard to reverse. Rainforests support a vastly greater range of species than savannah and play a much greater role in absorbing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

damn, we need a sad icon.....

 

[mspohr]

Anthropogenesis: Origins and Endings in the Anthropocene

If the Anthropocene represents a new epoch of thought, it also represents a new form of materiality and historicity for the human as strata and stratigrapher of the geologic record. This collision of human and inhuman histories in the strata is a new formation of subjectivity within a geologic horizon that redefines temporal, material, and spatial orders of the human (and thus nature). I argue that the Anthropocene contains within it a form of Anthropogenesis - a new origin story and ontics for man - that radically rewrites material modes of differentiation and concepts of life, from predominantly biopolitical notions of life toward an understanding of life’s geophysical origination (geontics). Here, I use the term Anthropogenesis to suggest that two things explicitly happen in the nomination of the Anthropocene: 1) the production of a mythic Anthropos as geologic world-maker/destroyer of worlds, and 2) a material, evolutionary narrative that re-imagines human origins and endings within a geologic rather than an exclusively biological context. In contrast to the homogeneous geomorphizing of the Anthropocene, I suggest that socializing the strata needs a more nuanced notion of ‘geologic life’ that challenges the construction of the Anthropocene as an undifferentiated social stratification.

 

[mspohr]

The Stories Michael Shellenberger Tells - Los Angeles Review of Books

 

[SmartElectric]

If the Anthropocene represents a new epoch of thought, it also represents a new form of materiality and historicity for the human as strata and stratigrapher of the geologic record <snip>

Um, rated "funny", because no other rating would make sense, the author is ... interesting ..
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Kathryn-Yusoff-2075931794

Ex : of another fine article by the author

Queer Fire: Ecology, Combustion and Pyrosexual Desire

We set out by noting the preference for circular flows in ecological thought, and the related abhorrence of inefficiency and waste that Western ecology shares with mainstream economic thinking. This has often been manifest in a shared disdain both for uncontained, free-burning fire and for ‘unmanaged’ sexual desire.

 

[mspohr]

Um, rated "funny", because no other rating would make sense, the author is ... interesting ..
https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Kathryn-Yusoff-2075931794

Ex : of another fine article by the author

Yes, this author as an odd way of writing. Full of jargon. I think his usual audience is a very small group of academics.

 

[mspohr]

UK 'will take 700 years' to reach low-carbon heating under current plans

At current rates, it will take 700 years for the UK to move to low-carbon heating, and at least 19,000 homes a week must be upgraded between now and 2050. There was a record rise last year of 1.8% in the number of new gas boilers installed, showing that the UK is going in the wrong direction.