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Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) SpaceX and Boeing Developments

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I imagine they will add mission specialists closer to the flight?
That is how it works. The Pilot and Mission Commander are chosen, then as the launch time approaches (4 or 5 months) they choose the specialists. Crew 5 has three people chosen, Crew 6 has two, and the same for Crew 7. Note that the 4th position for 5 and 6 was originally planned to be a cosmonaut from Roscosmos. That is a big question mark at the moment. However, Roscosmos is saying that they will be bringing back the current NASA astronaut just as planned. If that goes well then maybe we'll still see those seats filled with a cosmonaut. Who knows?
 
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Reuters reports

SpaceX has ended production of new Crew Dragon astronaut capsules, a company executive told Reuters, as Elon Musk’s space transportation company heaps resources on its next-generation spaceship program.

Capping the fleet at four Crew Dragons adds more urgency to the development of the astronaut capsule’s eventual successor, Starship, SpaceX’s moon and Mars rocket. Starship’s debut launch has been delayed for months by engine development hurdles and regulatory reviews.
Since Crew Dragons are reusable (albeit with extensive refurbishment) no point in building more since the ISS is approaching the end of its life and the plan is for Starship to make the F9 and Dragon obsolete. Let’s hope everything goes according to plan…
 
Reuters reports


Since Crew Dragons are reusable (albeit with extensive refurbishment) no point in building more since the ISS is approaching the end of its life and the plan is for Starship to make the F9 and Dragon obsolete. Let’s hope everything goes according to plan…
Funny that Dreamliner hasn’t seen service before Crew Dragon goes EOL. I wonder if this will prompt NASA to do their ridiculous “maintenance” contracts and pay for idle manufacturing capacity for Crew Dragons?
 
He said, she said....Boeing versus Aerojet, putting blame to Starliner's sticky fuel valve problems. Also, apparently this is not the first time for Boeing's Commercial Crew project...."The feud with Aerojet is not Boeing's first Starliner subcontractor quarrel. In 2017, Starliner had an accident during a ground test that forced the president of a different subcontractor to have his leg medically amputated. The subcontractor sued, and Boeing subsequently settled the case.".....This points to the advantages and gains SpaceX is able to achieve with their vertical integration.
 
He said, she said....Boeing versus Aerojet, putting blame to Starliner's sticky fuel valve problems. Also, apparently this is not the first time for Boeing's Commercial Crew project...."The feud with Aerojet is not Boeing's first Starliner subcontractor quarrel. In 2017, Starliner had an accident during a ground test that forced the president of a different subcontractor to have his leg medically amputated. The subcontractor sued, and Boeing subsequently settled the case.".....This points to the advantages and gains SpaceX is able to achieve with their vertical integration.

Wow, if that accident had happened to SpaceX, it'd be front page new and a Congressional hearing. With Boeing, crickets.
 
Wow, if that accident had happened to SpaceX, it'd be front page new and a Congressional hearing. With Boeing, crickets.
Lots of finger pointing going on...

A team of Boeing and NASA engineers is in general agreement that the cause of the stuck valves involves a chemical reaction between propellant, aluminum materials and the intrusion of moisture from Starliner's humid Florida launch site.
Aerojet engineers and lawyers see it differently, blaming a cleaning chemical that Boeing has used in ground tests, two of the sources said.Thirteen fuel valves that are part of a propulsion system that helps steer Starliner in space were discovered stuck and unresponsive in the closed position, prompting last year's postponement.
 
This Boeing/Aerojet dispute is hilarious for those of us sitting on the sidelines.

This is definitely not hilarious…
In 2017, Starliner had an accident during a ground test that forced the president of a different subcontractor to have his leg medically amputated.
Is this the first public disclosure of that? How horrible.

Searche the web and did not find a reference to that 2017 accident. This is a different story, from 2012 Boeing worker caught under 787 wheel has legs amputated
 
This Boeing/Aerojet dispute is hilarious for those of us sitting on the sidelines.

This is definitely not hilarious…

Is this the first public disclosure of that? How horrible.

Searche the web and did not find a reference to that 2017 accident. This is a different story, from 2012 Boeing worker caught under 787 wheel has legs amputated
From Twitter, a contractor was making final connections for a capsule baloon drop test while standing on a faulty ladder. When they made the connection, ESD set up the pyro releasing the capsule (no redundant safety cables) which threw him and the ladder off. He landed half on a trailer and destroyed his foot / leg.

Inital filing, main case is under another docket.
Docket for Timothy Lachenmeier v. The Boeing Company, 2:20-cv-10363 - CourtListener.com
 
From Twitter, a contractor was making final connections for a capsule baloon drop test while standing on a faulty ladder. When they made the connection, ESD set up the pyro releasing the capsule (no redundant safety cables) which threw him and the ladder off. He landed half on a trailer and destroyed his foot / leg.

Inital filing, main case is under another docket.
Docket for Timothy Lachenmeier v. The Boeing Company, 2:20-cv-10363 - CourtListener.com

Ouch. Sounds well within the realm of possibility (ESD triggering a pyro has got to be a known failure in this industry), so having no backup safety like redundant cables is just malpractice.

And NASA still thought that they needed to give SpaceX a proctology exam while giving Boeing a pass? Sounds like it wasn’t only Boeing who screwed up.
 
I don't know who to give credit to for this one.
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I don't know who to give credit to for this one.
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So (theoretically) on track to repeat the flight test ~3 years after the first flight test.

Yeah - good thing the program went in with redundancy built in. I actually do hope that Starliner gets flying for real. I also hope that somebody else comes along (Blue Origin?) that develops the capability. If nothing else - to drive down the price for Starliner missions.
 
After watching so many SpaceX launches, some comments.

Their on board camera could use an upgrade from the 640x480 apparent resolution.

Ejecting the solid rocket boosters gives the rocket quite a jolt which seems to require some corrective action. The boosters eject quite a bit of time after burn out, meaning it is carrying penalty mass for quite a while. Quite the waste throwing away solid boosters and first stage. No second stage cameras, we got to look at an animation! Telemetry read outs were small and hard to read. Audio said they "had a little bit of an overperformance on the first booster, but Centaur could compensate". Gawd, life with solid rocket boosters - you never really know what you're going to get.