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I was under the impression that if the car is in the care of you can insure it personally
Insurance companies used to accept company cars registered to the company being insured by the individual, however they seem to have cracked down on this and many now insist the car is registered to the user. Tesla, as per @forddj ’s experience are truly diabolical at the admin side of this. They really should do better, bearing in mind DVLA are also a nightmare to deal with with their very strict rules surrounding change of R/Ks.
 
Contacted Tesla 3 weeks before delivery as I was sorting insurance to ask who would be the registered keeper. my company was buying the vehicle but the online portal showed me as the keeper - fine. The agent I spoke to from Tesla (called Romain) said he thought it would be me personally. Fine. I said I was about to spend £750 on insurance so was he sure. He put me on hold, then came back to confirm that I personally would be the registered keeper. Fine.. I also emailed Tesla to ask for email confirmation after reading some of these posts...... but they never responded :-(. So, onwards, Insurance purchased before collecting the car assuming that Tesla (Romain) and the Online Portal must have been correct. Ah, but no! When the V5 came through, it had the company as registered keeper. Directline said the insurance would be declined if it was a company (even though they had previously said it would be fine) - I had to find another insurance company...... . Contacted Tesla again (3 times), eventually they sent me a letter to send to the DVLA that they said would change the registered keeper - but when the letter arrived (after chasing twice), it just had Care Of and specifically said the Company was still the registered keeper. So, I then had to cancel the DirectLine insurance and go with Admiral - they were OK with having a Company as Registered Keeper - also was £200 cheaper. A right pain in the arse, wasted hours of my life...... I didn't really mind what the answer to the original question was (me personally or Company), but the answer was wrong and I had fun waiting several times to get through to Tesla / Directline / Admiral.

On the plus side - I am in love with my Tesla Y...... a thing of beauty, power and brains! Who cares about the insurance cuffufle, just a hiccup !
Thanks for sharing, I'm in the same boat, like yourself, I was planning to put the company name and then care/of with my name to get the personal insurance benefit. Looks like I need to choose "one person" under the drop down menu instead to save all this hassle.
I've presumed the invoice would still be for the company and I can still use the business tesla hire purchase option??
 
I was under the impression that if the car is in the care of you can insure it personally
I found out that it depends on who the Insurance company is. Both Direct line and Admiral didn't care if there was Care Of or not, it was the official registered keeper that mattered. With Admiral the Company is the registered keeper but the insurance is personal.
 
Thanks for sharing, I'm in the same boat, like yourself, I was planning to put the company name and then care/of with my name to get the personal insurance benefit. Looks like I need to choose "one person" under the drop down menu instead to save all this hassle.
I've presumed the invoice would still be for the company and I can still use the business tesla hire purchase option??
Whilst the registered keeper is the Company, with Admiral I still have personal insurance. Direct Line used to do this (in fact their Chatbot Online gives an answer that says your Employer Company can be the Registered Keeper for your personal insurance), but since changing systems / underwriters - no longer allowed. This confused the 3 different Direct Line agents I spoke to..... But in the end, the Directline "Computer said No". I assume, the Registered Keeper is either:

1. Lease Company
2. Company (if the company buys the vehicle either all-out cash or via finance like PCP)
3. Individual if a person is paying. Problem with 3 is that you will not get the Tax breaks offered for companies buying electric vehicles (or rather your accountant will squirm if you try).
 
Whilst the registered keeper is the Company, with Admiral I still have personal insurance. Direct Line used to do this (in fact their Chatbot Online gives an answer that says your Employer Company can be the Registered Keeper for your personal insurance), but since changing systems / underwriters - no longer allowed. This confused the 3 different Direct Line agents I spoke to..... But in the end, the Directline "Computer said No". I assume, the Registered Keeper is either:

1. Lease Company
2. Company (if the company buys the vehicle either all-out cash or via finance like PCP)
3. Individual if a person is paying. Problem with 3 is that you will not get the Tax breaks offered for companies buying electric vehicles (or rather your accountant will squirm if you try).
Option 3 is not an issue, at all. As long as the company own the vehicle, the tax breaks can be claimed. The registered keeper of the vehicle should be the person who regularly drives the vehicle, even if this is a company car. If your accountant is squirming with the idea of a company car being registered to an individual, you may wish to consider finding a better accountant.
 
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Option 3 is not an issue, at all. As long as the company own the vehicle, the tax breaks can be claimed. The registered keeper of the vehicle should be the person who regularly drives the vehicle, even if this is a company car. If your accountant is squirming with the idea of a company car being registered to an individual, you may wish to consider finding a better accountant.
My accountant tried to tell me the company had to be the registered keeper. I told him he was talking nonsense and put it in my name anyway. as others have said:
KEEPER IS NOT THE OWNER
 
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These posts about registered keepers vs owners when buying a car through a limited company go back several years so I can't believe there is still uncertainty and confusion, but unfortunately this is the position I am in now.

I am collecting my MY next week, and I bought it using my Ltd company. My understanding from other posts on this forum was that the company will be the owner, but I personally should be the registered keeper. I have emailed Tesla and also just spoken on the phone, and they said because I am buying it through a company, they "have to" put the company name on the V5C, but my personal name will show as the 'care of' name: "The car will be registered under the company name xx Ltd, with the registration care of name being your personal name".

Having read other stuff on here, I'm unsure if this is true, and I'm unsure if it's what I want or not (for insurance purposes). I have told Churchill that the car is registered to me. So I don't know if they will accept that being the care-of name rather than the main name. I will obviously go and ask Churchill, but I'm wondering if anyone else has any advice. The posts on this thread have gone quiet the last few months but I'm sure other people collecting this Q must be in the same position?

Thanks
 
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These posts about registered keepers vs owners when buying a car through a limited company go back several years so I can't believe there is still uncertainty and confusion, but unfortunately this is the position I am in now.

I am collecting my MY next week, and I bought it using my Ltd company. My understanding from other posts on this forum was that the company will be the owner, but I personally should be the registered keeper. I have emailed Tesla and also just spoken on the phone, and they said because I am buying it through a company, they "have to" put the company name on the V5C, but my personal name will show as the 'care of' name: "The car will be registered under the company name xx Ltd, with the registration care of name being your personal name".

Having read other stuff on here, I'm unsure if this is true, and I'm unsure if it's what I want or not (for insurance purposes). I have told Churchill that the car is registered to me. So I don't know if they will accept that being the care-of name rather than the main name. I will obviously go and ask Churchill, but I'm wondering if anyone else has any advice. The posts on this thread have gone quiet the last few months but I'm sure other people collecting this Q must be in the same position?

Thanks
I’ll be honest here, Tesla are simply being an ar** with the nonsense over who the vehicle is initially registered to. There’s no reason they can’t register the vehicle to whomever the purchaser requests. I don’t think the C/O line (which is effectively the first line of the address) makes any realistic difference, and I feel it would just give an insurance company wiggle room to refuse a payout. We ended up biting the bullet and changing the R/K to the wife, taking the previous R/K hit. DVLA displaying the number of previous R/Ks is also a load of nonsense and this being used as a way of valuing vehicles is another load of tosh, but here we are.
 
I’ll be honest here, Tesla are simply being an ar** with the nonsense over who the vehicle is initially registered to. There’s no reason they can’t register the vehicle to whomever the purchaser requests. I don’t think the C/O line (which is effectively the first line of the address) makes any realistic difference, and I feel it would just give an insurance company wiggle room to refuse a payout. We ended up biting the bullet and changing the R/K to the wife, taking the previous R/K hit. DVLA displaying the number of previous R/Ks is also a load of nonsense and this being used as a way of valuing vehicles is another load of tosh, but here we are.
I just phoned Churchill and they said if Tesla put my company name, C/O my name, then I would need to change my Churchill policy to show the Company is the registered keeper, not me. But she said I can make that change for free. Then she said if when I get the V5C, they've actually put my name, I can just change it back for free. So I guess I don't feel that worried because Churchill will just let me switch the registered keeper for free depending on what Tesla put. And because all the phone calls with Churchill are recorded, I have a record of everything, so hopefully should be OK...

So I think all is fine...am I missing something?
 
I just phoned Churchill and they said if Tesla put my company name, C/O my name, then I would need to change my Churchill policy to show the Company is the registered keeper, not me. But she said I can make that change for free. Then she said if when I get the V5C, they've actually put my name, I can just change it back for free. So I guess I don't feel that worried because Churchill will just let me switch the registered keeper for free depending on what Tesla put. And because all the phone calls with Churchill are recorded, I have a record of everything, so hopefully should be OK...

So I think all is fine...am I missing something?
They may charge nothing for the administrative change, but your policy cost is likely to go up considerably if you show a company as the R/K. We saw differences of around £1000 (and many companies refused to quote) when showing the company as R/K.
 
They may charge nothing for the administrative change, but your policy cost is likely to go up considerably if you show a company as the R/K. We saw differences of around £1000 (and many companies refused to quote) when showing the company as R/K.
Sorry I should have clarified; they said there was no admin fee but also there was no increase to the premium 🤷‍♂️ I can already see she made the change on my account and the premium cost hasn't changed
 
Sorry I should have clarified; they said there was no admin fee but also there was no increase to the premium 🤷‍♂️ I can already see she made the change on my account and the premium cost hasn't changed
Interesting. In years gone by, insurance companies weren’t fussed if the car was registered to a Ltd company / spouse / close relative, however around 2 years ago they started clamping down and got really fussy if the car wasn’t registered in the policyholder‘s name. I wonder whether they’re starting to back off from that stance?
 
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Interesting. In years gone by, insurance companies weren’t fussed if the car was registered to a Ltd company / spouse / close relative, however around 2 years ago they started clamping down and got really fussy if the car wasn’t registered in the policyholder‘s name. I wonder whether they’re starting to back off from that stance?
Well one thing I did notice was that many insurance quote websites ask 1) who is the RK and 2) who is the owner. But Churchill only ask who is the RK. I phoned them a few times, and they confirmed they don't even care who is the owner, only the RK. (Although they did agree to put a note to say the car was owned by my Ltd company). And regarding the RK, I obviously only have this single experience (as explain in previous post), but switching the RK from me to company was simple, instant, and without any cost. As you say, maybe they care less now. Not sure!
 
I can't see the registered keeper / owner anywhere on my Admiral policy.
I went via a comparison website and had selected Company as owner and registered keeper, but don't remember this (or company details) being asked on Admirals website specifically.
Can anyone else with Admiral confirm if they see these details mentioned anywhere in the policy?
 
I can't see the registered keeper / owner anywhere on my Admiral policy.
I went via a comparison website and had selected Company as owner and registered keeper, but don't remember this (or company details) being asked on Admirals website specifically.
Can anyone else with Admiral confirm if they see these details mentioned anywhere in the policy?
its on the proposal document
 
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Thanks a lot.
Mine says Keeper: Unknown
not sure if that matters at all then.
We’re with Admiral. They wanted a lot more money initially just for having the R/K as the company. During our renewal earlier this year they refused flat out to provide a quote showing the company as the R/K. That’s when we bit the bullet and changed from C/O to showing the wife as the R/K.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, maybe the insurance companies are moving away from being so strict about R/Ks?

Edit: If I were you, I’d double check with Admiral and make sure they’re happy with the situation. Insurance companies are renowned for weaseling out of payouts due to minor admin issues.
 
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I am collecting my MY next week, and I bought it using my Ltd company. My understanding from other posts on this forum was that the company will be the owner, but I personally should be the registered keeper. I have emailed Tesla and also just spoken on the phone, and they said because I am buying it through a company, they "have to" put the company name on the V5C, but my personal name will show as the 'care of' name: "The car will be registered under the company name xx Ltd, with the registration care of name being your personal name".
ok so in February, I purchased the car and it clearly stated on the Tesla order forms that I could have the V5C registered in a personal name and the invoice would be in the company name.

I myself emailed the local contact who told me the same thing as they told you which was wrong, despite also contacting the head office and them confirming I could have it in a personal name (V5C).

If the forms are still the same (likely) then as long as you ordered it originally in your invoice name, there should be an option to choose a personal name to register the car to, I doubt they have removed it tbh but can't check.

They may charge nothing for the administrative change, but your policy cost is likely to go up considerably if you show a company as the R/K. We saw differences of around £1000 (and many companies refused to quote) when showing the company as R/K.
I found it to be around £70-£100
 
Seeing this thread yesterday caused me some concern as I'm due a delivery of my Tesla next week and had a conversation with an employee a month or so ago to ensure I was the registered keeper despite my company purchasing the car.
I have spoken to Tesla this morning and after a long wait while the lasy checked with her manager, I was informed that although the company is buying the car it will be car of myself personally and that this therefore means on the V5 I will be listed as the registered keeper.

I was concerned based on this thread and I kept pushing it and was constantly reassured it would be me as registered keeper on the V5, but the wording Care of is still causing me concern. Just checking to see what others think of this explanation from Tesla. Cheers