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Comprehensive USB Bug List

TEG

Teslafanatic
Aug 20, 2006
21,717
8,682
This is a model S based thread, i'm a model 3 owner, I should bow out. Apparently there are enough differences that my situation doesn't work cross platform.

I am a Model 3 owner as well, so apologies if my example is not relevant to Model S.
 

yoyodyne

Member
Mar 4, 2013
17
4
Portland
My experience with my Model S is the same. Regardless of environment the embedded Art work, much of it custom artwork, faithfully displays.


More research (I'm probably spending far too much time on this): FLAC seems to be the key. On albums where the remote server can't find album art and I create a FLAC file with either .jpg or .png embedded art my MS dutifully displays that art. When I use the same tagger to add a .jpg to an mp3 version of those same songs it doesn't.

So, I'm guessing that the only way the MS displays the art with mp3 is via the remote album art look up service. The only way to guarantee your embedded album art is if you only encode with FLAC.

I guess the question is why? I'm not as familiar with the ins an outs of metadata in FLAC vs mp3 or AAC.
 

sduck

Mr. Duck
Nov 6, 2017
1,388
1,394
Nashville TN
Oh goody, now tesla has broken usb album art. As of 2020.44, album art no longer works. I just got 2020.44.10.1, and it's just gone. This is on my model 3 - wonder if S and X's are having the same issue?
 

supratachophobia

Active Member
Sep 24, 2014
3,849
2,675
Columbus, Ohio
Update: I've gone back to a burner Android phone running BlackPlayer with 6500+ tracks loaded and then paired with Bluetooth. Ran a dedicated power cable to it and it just charges every time I drive. Never drops below 80% sitting idle over the weekend. Not ideal because it's another device, but it's super reliable, album art is perfect, music starts where you left off (no restarts to beginning of track), no ridiculous scan times or unreliable behavior with plugging a USB stick into the car, etc.
 

TEG

Teslafanatic
Aug 20, 2006
21,717
8,682
Update: I've gone back to a burner Android phone running BlackPlayer with 6500+ tracks loaded and then paired with Bluetooth. Ran a dedicated power cable to it and it just charges every time I drive. Never drops below 80% sitting idle over the weekend. Not ideal because it's another device, but it's super reliable, album art is perfect, music starts where you left off (no restarts to beginning of track), no ridiculous scan times or unreliable behavior with plugging a USB stick into the car, etc.

I expect that quality will be lower because of Bluetooth than it would be from a FLAC on a flash drive...
 

tomas

Out of warranty...
Oct 22, 2012
4,229
3,798
Chicago/Montecito
I expect that quality will be lower because of Bluetooth than it would be from a FLAC on a flash drive...
Yep:(

everyone has priorities. I weather these storms because my priority is fidelity, and I don’t need album art to listen. But I understand how others might be willing to compromise fidelity for consistency of UI.
 

TEG

Teslafanatic
Aug 20, 2006
21,717
8,682
everyone has priorities. I weather these storms because my priority is fidelity, and I don’t need album art to listen. But I understand how others might be willing to compromise fidelity for consistency of UI.

Yes, I will stick with my flash drive flacs. Album art is just a "nice to have" for me.
 

d.c.palmer

8 years of EV driving
Feb 17, 2017
153
147
Oxford, England
Thanks to @f205v I've just found this thread, having reported elsewhere (High-Resolution USB Audio Broken?) that my car with an older firmware version (2020.36.11) had mysteriously lost the ability to play my 24-bit 96- or 192kHz FLAC files.

I reported this to Tesla via the "Report a Bug" feature (probably speaking into a black hole) and then telephoned Tesla service and was amazed to be able to speak with a real human being! She duly took my details and later e-mailed with the usual checks: USB stick formatting, etc. No doubt this will be noted somewhere at the bottom of a very long bug list, then struck off as "low priority" by some manager. Meanwhile, my £2000 "Premium Audio System" is unused because I can't hear my latest recordings and can't bear to dumb them down to 48 kHz (aside: sampling rate IS important: it reveals subtle transients and spatial details that we, as human beings are particularly sensitive to).

Meanwhile, I'm curious as to the legal case here: our cars have lost functionality as a result of a software update. Under English Common Law (which, I believe, underpins much of US law as well) we are entitled to be redress - but no doubt we signed our rights away by agreeing to accept software updates (though in some cases such updates have been forced on individuals as "safety precautions"). Curious.
 

d.c.palmer

8 years of EV driving
Feb 17, 2017
153
147
Oxford, England
Wasn't this bug fixed in an update after that one? 36.11 is pretty ancient - surely you've gotten some upgrades since then?

Very possibly, but this is the latest firmware for my two Teslas (these are both AP1.0 - perhaps that's why?). In any case, I'm now in a state where a Tesla firmware update has removed functionality from my vehicle…
 
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f205v

Member
May 12, 2018
641
739
Tessin, Switzerland
@d.c.palmer @sduck My car just updated to 2020.44.15
I went down in the garage with a freshly formatted USB drive and various music files (MP3s and FLACs) at different bit rates and sampling.
Everything plays perfectly, up to 24bit and 192kHz.
Cover art is completely missing.

So basically it's one step forward and one (albeit different) step backward.
 
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