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Confusion about EAP vs AP on a HW2 Model S

cy2k

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Dec 4, 2019
14
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Albany NY
I'm trying to figure out what the heck I have... I bought the car used from Tesla about a year back. Late 2016 Model S with HW2.

I have ALL the functionality that currently exists as far as I can tell (Navigate on Autopilot, auto lane changing, etc.) Which is what leads me to believe that my car has EAP. My purchase agreement from Tesla said just "Autopilot".

But my purchase history in the app doesn't show EAP or anything, it's blank. And the FSD upgrade is the full $10k price, which I think is supposed to be discounted if you have EAP, right?

So what gives? Anyone else run into this?
 

EVRider-FL

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Aug 18, 2015
244
122
South Florida
You have EAP, which gives you most of the functionality currently available in the FSD package. EAP was the only Autopilot option available for your car when it was produced.
 

cobra

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Feb 8, 2021
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Lansdale, PA, USA
And it seems like those cars just call it 'AutoPilot' on the screen, right? I had a loaner Model S a few weeks ago just like that. Had most of the features but just showed 'AutoPilot' on the cabin screens. It's funny, because our 2017 MX shows similar on screen, but we only have basic AutoPilot, and the enhanced features are not available.
 

cy2k

Member
Dec 4, 2019
14
2
Albany NY
You have EAP, which gives you most of the functionality currently available in the FSD package. EAP was the only Autopilot option available for your car when it was produced.

Ok, so doesn't that mean that I should have the discounted FSD available? I thought I saw people saying that FSD is only $5k if you have EAP...
 

EVRider-FL

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Aug 18, 2015
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South Florida
Ok, so doesn't that mean that I should have the discounted FSD available? I thought I saw people saying that FSD is only $5k if you have EAP...

That's correct, you should be able to add FSD for something like $5-6k if you have EAP. I guess the question is whether Tesla knows you have EAP and whether it was actually purchased by the previous owner. If you're interested in FSD, you can take a chance and try to get the discount, but if it turns out you weren't supposed to have EAP to begin with, Tesla will probably remove it.

And it seems like those cars just call it 'AutoPilot' on the screen, right? I had a loaner Model S a few weeks ago just like that. Had most of the features but just showed 'AutoPilot' on the cabin screens. It's funny, because our 2017 MX shows similar on screen, but we only have basic AutoPilot, and the enhanced features are not available.

Not sure how it appears on the screen, because I have FSD. However, Navigate on Autopilot is definitely only available in either EAP or FSD, not in basic AP.
 

cy2k

Member
Dec 4, 2019
14
2
Albany NY
And it seems like those cars just call it 'AutoPilot' on the screen, right? I had a loaner Model S a few weeks ago just like that. Had most of the features but just showed 'AutoPilot' on the cabin screens. It's funny, because our 2017 MX shows similar on screen, but we only have basic AutoPilot, and the enhanced features are not available.

So on screen mine is calling it "Highway Autopilot", which doesn't seem right honestly, given all the functionality I have in the Autopilot settings.

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cy2k

Member
Dec 4, 2019
14
2
Albany NY
That's correct, you should be able to add FSD for something like $5-6k if you have EAP. I guess the question is whether Tesla knows you have EAP and whether it was actually purchased by the previous owner. If you're interested in FSD, you can take a chance and try to get the discount, but if it turns out you weren't supposed to have EAP to begin with, Tesla will probably remove it.



Not sure how it appears on the screen, because I have FSD. However, Navigate on Autopilot is definitely only available in either EAP or FSD, not in basic AP.

See, that's what I'm worried about, and it's why I haven't wanted to talk to Tesla about it yet. When I first bought the car, the Tesla tech was really surprised because to them it looked like I had FSD and they didn't think the car had it when I bought it, based on what it said in the system.

So right from the start, something seemed off, but I didn't want to rock the boat, lol.

Do you really think they'd take something away? Is there a precedent for that? :(

Here's what my app screen shows right now, FYI

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EVRider-FL

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Aug 18, 2015
244
122
South Florida
Yes, Tesla has taken EAP away from other owners who weren't supposed to have it.

Other than the HW3 upgrade, there's nothing about FSD at this point that provides a compelling reason to upgrade from EAP and risk losing what you already have. If you decide to upgrade to FSD in the future, you'll end up paying for the EAP that you've been enjoying all along.
 

cy2k

Member
Dec 4, 2019
14
2
Albany NY
I wonder if your car somehow became a part of the free EAP trial that's going on overseas (UK for sure, maybe other locations too?) through the end of the month.

I purchased the car from Tesla in late 2019, and I've had the features the whole time. So I don't think so...?
 

EVRider-FL

Member
Aug 18, 2015
244
122
South Florida
According to some recent media articles, Tesla has started calling the "FSD City Streets" beta "Autosteer on City Streets" (presumably to avoid implying it's actually full self driving), so "Highway Autopilot" sort of makes sense. I never saw that term before either.
 
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