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Connected Kerb - UK EV kerbside parking - the good, and not so good

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This thread relates to kerb side parking in UK, specifically Connected Kerb


tl;dr - a largely positive experience with a few caveats and potential cost savings that might save a few pennys for those that like to.

Firstly, they spelled kerb properly, always a positive start!

As a frequent visitor to extended stays to south coast, EV charging has always been at back of our mind. In the past Tesco podpoint with a walk and click watching to avoid overstay fees, or opportunistic free supercharging has always sufficed, albeit at expense of often pretty dire facilities - looking at you Emsworth.

This time however, it became front and centre as a medium length same day trip meant that we would have at a point reached minimum comfortable charge during the trip. So time to look at solutions which didn’t require us going too much out of our way to grab a charge.

Whilst having Octopuses Electrocharge since its inception, we have never actually used it in anger before. So it was the go to app of choice.

Knowing the frequently visited area well, I wasn’t expecting to see anything particularly useful and/or supported by Electroverse. But to my surprise, a handful of conveniently located Connected Kerb sites had appeared since last visit, each with 4-6 charge points. I hadn’t heard of the company before, but a couple of pics on Electroverse app showed what to expect. A recce was in order…

We checked over 3 of the locations. Out of a max of 18 spaces, 3 were EV charging, 2 spaces were unoccupied but somewhat tight (due to inconsiderable parking) and the rest were… ICEd, including several large vans.

Ok, so it was a hot and busy day on the coast, so hopefully not typical.

A few days later, we decided to head off to a nearby town for a few hours. Perfect opportunity to destination charge. And some connected kerb sites a short walk from the town centre.

Once you know what you are looking for, they are easy to spot due to the road markings and this time, a row of 6 empty spaces. So we picked one and tried to plug in. No cigar, the twist locator was stuck in wrong orientation. As the posts were paired we tried the other one.

All ok. Car connected, Electroverse RFID card out, a quick swipe across the payment plate and Electroverse app showed car was charging. Almost as easy as a supercharger.

On short walk into town we decided to detour to another row to check them out. At which point we discovered signage for residents parking. Of the 4, one EV was parked but not plugged in, and the other 3 were occupied by 2 ICE vehicles poorly parked.

As it just so happened, a traffic warden was close by so I asked what the restrictions were with ICE vehicles and more importantly to clarify whether we had parked in a restricted bay even though there was no double lines like surrounding areas and parking restriction signage was just a bare pole. “If there is no signage, it’s unenforceable” they said to my relief. See also update warning on controlled parking zone.

3 hours later, swiped card to stop charge, unplugged and off we went. As easy as supercharging combined with a relaxing stay without any worries about having to rush back to car to avoid any over stay fines or other site fees/fines.

Receipt was already in Electroverse app by time I had checked a few minutes later. Couldn’t have been easier except for stuck first charger orientation ring.

Cost - about £10 for 3 hours charging. Saved a few ££ on in town parking and had a very pleasant 20 minute walk each way.

So, apart from some spaces being ICEd, what else…

Cost:
Electroverse fixed 48p/kwh included IO 8% discount. A fair price.

Connected Kerb app, which I downloaded later showed slightly mixed pricing of between 45p and 52p depending on exact location and time of day - some are cheaper overnight. Very fair pricing and if you don’t have Electroverse RFID card, probably still easy to use as it supported Apple Pay etc as a guest.

And the Bad
Shell Recharge - 7xp - wtf - how can they justify such a markup ?

And the not so good.
A mate of mine just so happens to be a parking warden in the area where 11/18 charge points were out of order. I joked that I could tell him where to find 11 illegally parked cars. “Not enforceable” apparently something about the local authority not applying for enforcement- it also applies to a couple of other spots around town that should be, but arent because the local council let the restrictions lapse or haven’t applied for it - this is in addition to the local resident who also painted their own disabled parking space!

He did however warn me about controlled parking zones which are not necessary obvious, especially if you are concentrating on looking for charge points. These put a blanket set of parking restrictions within certain zones, notified solely by a pair of road side signs.

As for the now reported broken charge point. Connected kerb responded within 24 hours saying it’s been reported to their engineers. Unlike some other companies who seem not to care a damn, I don’t doubt that Connected Kerb will indeed get this sorted.

Well done connected kerb and Octopus, shame on local authorities and Shell Recharge.

PS. I also checked the controlled parking zone. Apart from the resident parking zone ones, all the Connected Kerb chargers where we charged were outside any CPZ, so could have left car overnight to charge if need be.
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I find the Electroverse app pretty good. I now use that for my local charging as there is one near me that is only a 7kw charger but is only 30p/kw and I can leave it there for a few hours while I go visit a mate. Last time I left it there for a good 7-8 hours, charged from 17% to 100% and it only cost me £18.
 
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Is that cheaper than SCing? May be a pound or so, not sure the reasons you would use that instead of SCing unless there are no options nearby.

Depends how you value your time.

Superchargers are great for extended journeys but often not a great option for destination charging.

I’m happy to pay a reasonable price differential for convenient destination charging and not having to go out of my way to find a supercharger then waiting for car to charge. I did that more than enough in early days of car ownership - it soon got boring.

My destination charging session consisted of a lovely walk along a seafront, a leisurely bite to eat in a nice friendly cafe, a leisurely wander around some shops (the reason for the journey) and a leisurely coffee on a pier watching the sea mist roll in.

Had we wanted to supercharge and save a few quid, it would have been about an hours trip each way including queuing in usual hot spots, sitting at a charger for 20 minutes on an industrial estate with absolutely no facilities then making the return journey back to arrive with 10% less SoC than we did charging locally.

Head off the main routes, supercharging isn’t great, but it doesn’t have to be because low power destination chargers can do a more appropriate charge if they are not ICEd and are working. Looks like the time has come, at least on south coast, that widespread convenient reasonably priced destination charging is becoming a reality.
 
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We used Connected Kerb quite a lot in N. Yorkshire a year or so back. Electroverse wasn't a thing then but it worked fine via their app. Also +1 for Electroverse which was seamless on the few chargers we found in the depths of Provence a month back. Fascinating (at least for me) that the energy my solar was crediting to my Octopus account was in effect being used to fund my energy purchases for EV charging a thousand miles away in a different country. Seamlessly. Lovely feeling.
 
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Depends how you value your time.
That’s bit patronising. No body is questioning anyone’s values here. I genuinely don’t know the OPs circumstances in which he left the car for that amount of time - it may be for a sleep over, a walk or whatever he likes to do. The choices also depends on how far it is from your place and so on. Something like an 10minute walk to pick up and drop off the car may not be big issue for someone like OP but may be an issue for someone else. There is no single right answer for all these questions and let us not make it another cynical debate.
 
That’s bit patronising. No body is questioning anyone’s values here. I genuinely don’t know the OPs circumstances in which he left the car for that amount of time - it may be for a sleep over, a walk or whatever he likes to do. The choices also depends on how far it is from your place and so on. Something like an 10minute walk to pick up and drop off the car may not be big issue for someone like OP but may be an issue for someone else. There is no single right answer for all these questions and let us not make it another cynical debate.
You know you’re replying to the OP, yeah? 👍🏻
 
seems you're sorted if you live in Coventry (200+ chargers) but stuffed if you live in Teesside (precisely 0)

I finding Connected Charge activity rolling out here on south coast.

I was last here within last 2 months when there were none that I noticed. Apart from the 4 I noticed at start of the week, another appeared on the map this week and yesterday I walked past another set that was work in progress.

Hopefully it will continue at pace as there are noticeable gaps, ie between Eastbourne and Dover is pretty sparse.

What Connected charge do seem to do is rollout 4 or (more often) bays of 6 with a power cabinet and 2 or 3 double charge points rather than individual (or double ?) posts dotted around like some other providers do. This seems to reduce the chance of looking for an isolated post/bay only to find it occupied or out of use. Once you know what you are looking for, the connected kerb bays are easier to spot - very much a case once you see one, you start to notice them everywhere.

Having looked at a couple more providers along south coast, there are a few slightly cheaper alternatives, but few have been as convenient or widespread as the connected kerb offerings and of more concern, a large proportion marked as out of order.
 
Reasonable number of them in Surrey. The bank of 4 closest to my office has am EV only 2hr restriction 9-6, which makes them a poor option for visitors to our offices with EVs.
Not uncommon to see them ICEd, I've not seen any parking tickets on anybody, but the signage is clear and presumably enforcable.

While 48p/kWh isn't as bad as some, I still feel that AC charging should be cheaper than supercharging...
 
While 48p/kWh isn't as bad as some, I still feel that AC charging should be cheaper than supercharging...

It’s only cheaper due to the Tesla vehicle discount.

Many are superchargers TOU charging so not flat rate, but in general day time supercharging rates for PAYG pricing are more expensive than even the non discounted Octopus rate (8% discount for IO customers).

Eg public superchargers in south east seem to be ~52-56p for daytime rates. Nighttime supercharging is often cheaper, but then so are Connected Kerb pricing via their app - Electroverse looks to be flat rate.
 
I used Connected Kerb with Electroverse RFID card recently when in North Yorkshire. The chargers that were not ICEd were very easy to initiate charging and 11kW. Great for topping up when parked for 2-3 hours.

I wonder what Connected Kerb think of their equipment being ICEd? It must represent a loss of revenue in busy locations.
 
I wonder what Connected Kerb think of their equipment being ICEd? It must represent a loss of revenue in busy locations.

They clearly aren’t best impressed as they have a web page to report it.


After my first post, written at end of a particularly pleasant weekend day at a popular seaside destination, I did notice on other days the proportion of ICEd bays much reduced. Also more marked by finding a couple of new/in progress bays.

Also after my own charging experience at another popular seaside town, albeit not so favourable weather, and finding all bays mostly free of ICEing, I think for time being, except on busiest of days when any car will park anywhere irrespective of ICE/EV/commercial van, the tide is in favour of there being a good chance of finding at least one usable charge point on first attempt, which is down to a decent number of 4-6 charge point bays. Connected Kerb seem to have hit that sweet spot, long may that continue.
 
Connected kerb recently installed 4 x chargers in a residential street very close to our home. So I walk past them on a daily basis.

There is no signage and no parking restriction. Therefore all 4 are blocked pretty much all the time by ICE vehicles. I checked the CK app and as I suspected it states ‘4 chargers, all available’!

So you drive a couple of hundred miles and need a charge. You head around the side streets to where there are 4 chargers ‘available’ only to find none of them are usable!

For that reason, I hope I’m never so low on charge and dependant upon Connected Kerb!