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Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by Kipernicus, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. Kipernicus

    Kipernicus Model S Res#P1440

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    I still don't understand some of the terminology, like Avcon and SPI. Will Model S come with adapters to work with these connectors?

    In the pictures of this site it appears there is some adapter to allow a Leaf to charge here:
    Camarillo Premium Outlets - Camarillo, CA - Recargo

    And then on evchargermaps.com there are these terms:
    • SPI
    • LPI
    • AVC
    • TSL
    • DCQ
    • J1772
    • OC

    What do these stand for (I know/guess some, like J1772 is obvious, and TSL is Tesla), and who/what uses these? Can they be adapted to J1772? Adapted to Model S?

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  2. Jason S

    Jason S Model S Sig Perf (P85)

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    The Google, It Knows! (EVChargerNews)

    SPI - Small Paddle Inductive; Small Paddle Inductive Electric Vehicle Chargers | Electric Car Stations
    LPI - Large Paddle ... the one before SPI
    AVC - Avcon type charger. I think J1772 but haven't looked into it closely.
    TSL - Tesla, I assume Roadster type
    DCQ - Direct Current Quick charger; I think those are usually J1772?
    J1772 - the nominal standard
    OC - 'Other' Charger... in other words, read the dang description provided! (Could be NEMA...)

    Looks like a terrible batch of terminology imho. Looking forward to common standards.
     
  3. dadaleus

    dadaleus 4GETOIL P85#S70,FdrX,S85D

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    Avcon uses J1772 signaling but has a different head. I bought an adapter so I can take advantage of the few old ones of these still around without competing with Volts and Leafs. :)

    TSL means Roadster, yes. Model S HPCs are supposed to come out next month.

    In the wild, you mostly see J1772, but some old Avcon andSDPI and LPIs are around. Now way to adapt SPI or LPI to a Tesla.
     
  4. Kipernicus

    Kipernicus Model S Res#P1440

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    Sounds like we can get an Avcon to J1772 adapter, then use the J1772 to Model S adapter.

    How about Tesla roadster to Model S? I seem to remember seeing a few threads about that but I don't remember if they were conclusive.
    I heard that some of the old Roadster HPCs have been converted to J1772 heads but not all.
    Is there a Roadster to Model S adapter available?
     
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    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

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    There definitely is but, not sure in how polished a state though. The Santana Row store folks use such an adapter to charge the Model S over there with the Roadster chargers; there have been pics posted of this before, I think.
     
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  7. Kipernicus

    Kipernicus Model S Res#P1440

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    Is this the sort of Avcon adapter that I should be looking for?
    Avcon Claw Type Adapter for old J1772 | eBay
    Looks like it provides a 14-50 outlet and I would plug in the UMC.
    Or is there a version that has a J1772 plug output that plugs into the Model S (through its adapter)?

    Thanks
     
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    Last I heard they will not be making this.

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    Don't bother. Even at that price it's a big ugly box (only a 14-50) that you will never miss. Do you have a 40 on order?
    The Avcons are VERY easy to swap with a J1772 plug so they are dropping like flies. There are none left in my 40 mile area along the 101 and even the one you posted is going to be updated to a J soon.
     
  10. dadaleus

    dadaleus 4GETOIL P85#S70,FdrX,S85D

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    I would only buy one if there is a specific station or two that you know you want to charge at regularly but only have Avcon. That was my situation and it was worth it for me, but I suspect my situation was unusual.
     
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    Interesting. Certainly a limited market. So they plan to leave it up to the community to find their own solution?
     

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