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The pure joy of driving electric (to me) means that I will drive more...even casual "drives just for the sake of going for a drive" (a la Roadster).
A bigger battery = more freedom...to drive more when I want to drive more (and have more guilt free fun).
A bigger battery means the car has has fewer operational (range) limits..I don't like limits...they're so limiting! :wink::biggrin:
Therefore, give me the biggest battery & the fastest recharge capability...:smile::smile::smile:
Not all of us. Haven't you read about how Americans work too much to be happy? Many people have no paid vacation days and less than a week of unpaid vacation. As for holidays, how many federal holidays are there, six total I think?260 days a year ? There are 102-104 or so saturdays & sundays, that leaves 261-264 days. Don't you have holidays and vacations in the US ?
When coming to my decision, I de-rated each pack's mileage in my head by 1/3. The middle-size pack was my original choice even though I could handle most of my driving on the small pack. I think it had the best value-for-money of the three.
That's how the numbers came out for me too. But for the original poster, 66% * 160 = 105.60, which is more than he plans to do even on the weekends.
It's true that if you plan to keep the car, battery unchanged, for a really long time, getting a bigger battery means the car will last longer (assuming no crashes) -- because the "degraded" battery will still be enough for your range. If, on the other hand, you expect to get a new car in ten years,....
Other arguments mostly don't either:
- resale value : I think a 7-8-10 year old battery will not be worth much to anyone, independently of the initial capacity
- range : again, in 7-8-10 year I will probably be ready to get the latest Model ? so my 160 m Model S will make a very nice commuter car,
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Seems clear to me that you should aim for the 60kWh pack, at a minimum. The frequent 150-mile trips, up into mountains in cold weather, may not be safely inside the 40kWh pack's range, especially after a few years when degradation has chipped some range off. I'm not sure I'd want to be using Range mode that often, either.- weekly longest drive : 240 Km/150m , ski trip up north (Saint-Laurent, QC, Canada to Mont Blanc - Google Maps)
- monthly : same as above
- yearly : vacation trip to Maine (520km/320m) , Boston (500 km/312m), Québec City(250km/ 155 m)
So, for the money, I will put in this purchase, it can't be just a commuter car. So if I can cover my weekly and monthly longest drive, both ways, assuming no proper charging solution is in place in the first year of use.
I can live (not happily) with the fact that once a year, I used our ICE car for the vacation trip.
Does it justify 10000$ more for this convenience ? Not sure.
I can rent a lot of nice cars for the yearly vacation trip with 10000$... or just take our ICE car ...
Thanks for pushing charging up in Mont Tremblant! With the very warm winters we've had recently, and attendant lack of reliable snow, we've been going up there for early-season nordic skiing. It'd be great to eventually be able to do so in the Model S.
... I am hoping that Tesla installs a Supercharger near White River Junction, where I-91 and I-89 intersect; with that in place, you could do Montreal -- Boston even with the 60kWh pack (it breaks the trip into 300+200 km).
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Nowhere, sadly. I usually go to Jackson, NH, as they have the best grooming team on the east coast, but even they have iffy trails. Mt. Washington Resort claims to have most trails open, but they don't groom particularly well unless there's masses of snow. Mont-Tremblant has decent skiing, and they appear to have snow; haven't found the time to get that far north, though.I'm curious RobertB where you've been Nordic skiing this year? We have almost no snow. Pretty rare for us. Also curious if you've traveled with skis on your Roadster and how it affects your range.
Mont-Tremblant has decent skiing, and they appear to have snow; haven't found the time to get that far north though.