bkp_duke
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Coronavirus panic update: schools closed here, so now employers are arranging for their employees to have their children sent to child care facilities.
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Coronavirus panic update: schools closed here, so now employers are arranging for their employees to have their children sent to child care facilities.
No argument. I've been griping about don't test/don't tell for a month. You'll be able to get tested in a week or so. They're rolling out these drive-through centers now, but focused on hotspots first.That's not the point. The point is that if I tested positive then I know I'd be ok to go out in 2 weeks, or go volunteer or whatever. If I'm negative then I don't have to worry about infecting family. Now I don't know so I have to make uninformed decisions.
US testing has been a massive failure. The contrast to some other developed nations is incredible.
I have a faucet that delivers water right to my sink!btw: there are a number of delivery services that can deliver water/other products to your doorstep so you can honor the isolation. Fiji, ReadyRefresh, AquaMaestro to name three that deliver a high number of products.
Italy, Very bad Daily increment of positives...
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Prescribing it to do what? Just to have on hand? It's not some med you can take without some monitoring first especially if you're old.
I thought it was pretty self-evident. Touching hugging culture, high air pollution, high smoker rate, overwhelmed medical facilities, aging population with several generations living together. Probably some more that I can't think of right now.Does not explain why Italy is so hard hit.
As soon as Trump went public with it, I think there will now be a run on that medication in the USA. Is there a way to curb the abuse?Agreed, but the internet/TV news are showcasing the "benefit" and thus older folks here (I bet in other places too) are looking to take it prophylactically.
As soon as Trump went public with it, I think there will now be a run on that medication in the USA. Is there a way to curb the abuse?
I hope it's easy to acquire for hospitals.
That is a interesting thought. I wonder if the epidemiology is consistent with younger people infecting the elders at home.aging population with several generations living together
I thought it was pretty self-evident. Touching hugging culture, high air pollution, high smoker rate, overwhelmed medical facilities, aging population with several generations living together. Probably some more that I can't think of right now.
I'm glad to see more thinking around this lines. I hope all social shaming of anyone who thinks differently will fade away and we will be able to discuss risk/benefit of different scenarios.This chart tells an amazing story.
It seems like we are approaching the response completely wrong. We are unemploying 100’s of millions worldwide, wrecking the travel, entertainment, restaurant, sports industries, which will have ripple effects through real estate, aircraft companies, restaurant supply chains, banks...
And we are telling many people who are at very low risk they cannot work, because they may infect someone who is at great risk. It seems a far, far better approach to educate the people who have the conditions below, (and provide unemployment to those high risk people if they currently work), and then let them choose whether to self isolate or not.
It seems completely backwards to tell millennials and all other low risk individuals, they can not work, go out... because they may infect a high risk person who has chosen to not self isolate. It’s like saying we’re willing to destroy the economy and trigger a horrible recession, to preserve grandmother’s right to still go out, if she chooses. Grandmothers and Grandfathers and others with the conditions below, should be able to make the choice if they want to risk it or not, and family and society should focus on helping them if they choose not to risk it, by delivery services, unemployment...
It just seems so backwards to unemploy the healthiest and trigger a global massive recession if not depression, prolong the pain..., just so the at-risk (who are a much smaller percentage), can still socialize.
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Do you know Italy is not even taking older people (let alone with co-morbidities) into ICU ? They have so many younger people in ICU on ventilators.This chart tells an amazing story.
This chart tells an amazing story.
It seems like we are approaching the response completely wrong. We are unemploying 100’s of millions worldwide, wrecking the travel, entertainment, restaurant, sports industries, which will have ripple effects through real estate, aircraft companies, restaurant supply chains, banks...
And we are telling many people who are at very low risk they cannot work, because they may infect someone who is at great risk. It seems a far, far better approach to educate the people who have the conditions below, (and provide unemployment to those high risk people if they currently work), and then let them choose whether to self isolate or not.
It seems completely backwards to tell millennials and all other low risk individuals, they can not work, go out... because they may infect a high risk person who has chosen to not self isolate. It’s like saying we’re willing to destroy the economy and trigger a horrible recession, to preserve grandmother’s right to still go out, if she chooses. Grandmothers and Grandfathers and others with the conditions below, should be able to make the choice if they want to risk it or not, and family and society should focus on helping them if they choose not to risk it, by delivery services, unemployment...
It just seems so backwards to unemploy the healthiest and trigger a global massive recession if not depression, prolong the pain..., just so the at-risk (who are a much smaller percentage), can still socialize.
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Do you know Italy is not even taking older people (let alone with co-morbidities) into ICU ? They have so many younger people in ICU on ventilators.