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So we are still breaking records locally 17 weeks of data and the y axis has grown so much the majority of the graph looks flat. The SAH/Phase1 and Phase1/Phase2 transitions used to have a noticeable upslope. Now they are lost to the growth in Phase 3 "Tennessee Pledge"

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That would be Canada.

Pretty much anywhere with a functioning liberal democracy. Those countries are structured so the government's primary job is the safety and welfare of the people. When people are in charge who take their jobs governing seriously they tend to respond appropriately to a crisis like this.

When people are in charge who have authoritarian impulses, their first instinct is to hide the ball as much as possible. Looking around the US the states with governors who take their jobs seriously are doing all they can to curb the pandemic and are being honest and clear in their messaging. Every human being makes mistakes and so has every government in this crisis, but the honest ones admit they screwed up and have done everything possible to fix the problems.

Some problems took time to get under control. Once COVID got loose in NYC, it was tough to stop. A highly concentrated city is the ideal transmission zone for a highly infectious virus. Both California and Washington have bad outbreaks in food growing regions. In California some of that has spread to cities probably due to infected migrant workers visiting family between farm work gigs. Arizona's outbreaks started in a New Mexico Christian revival meeting on a reservation, and in the food growing region in the SW corner of the state which slops over the border from the Imperial Valley in California. Arizona was more open than California, so it got well implanted in the cities faster than California.

El Centro in California was the worst outbreak in California so far probably because the crops in that region come in in the spring and early summer. That's where much of the American grown spring produce you see in the markets in the US comes from. It's now spreading to the rest of California's ag regions as the crops start to mature there.

Containing the spread in ag regions is made more difficult by the fact that people who run ag businesses are more likely to listen to the current president than their governors. So getting compliance to governor's orders in those regions is difficult.
The county level daily confirmed cases map here
Per capita covid-19 cases and deaths

illustrates the problem. It's a bit more difficult to see in California because of the mingling of Hispanics between rural and urban areas due to farm workers visiting family in the cities. But in Washington there is a sharp line at the Cascade mountains. The hot spots in Washington are the food growing regions and the heavily populated urban counties just west of the Cascades are seeing relatively low case loads. Cherry season just ended in the hot zone region. Pears start picking in late August, followed immediately by apples which goes into November. Apple season peaks in the first two weeks of October. The cherry crop is tiny compared to apples.

The dark pink spot of Umatilla county Oregon started with a big church service in defiance of the governor's orders on large gatherings.

From the map, the hottest spots on the map are caused by only a handful of reasons: stupid governors more concerned about keeping the president happy than protecting their people, dumb actions by a relative few people in a low population county, or agricultural activity that requires workers to be crammed together. The parts of the country where agriculture does not involve a lot of people (like growing grain which is harvested and processed by machines or raising animals) are faring much better than places where agriculture needs to be done by a lot of people concentrated in one place.

Things could be done to help the migrant workers stay healthier. Better testing would help as well as better living conditions. Processing plants could do things to help too. But there would still probably be worse outbreaks in these areas because it's hard to control the virus when you have people who need to cross paths a lot.
 
so, what's the deal with arsenic homeopathic stuff.

a friend is asking me about it. I'm not a believer, but wanted to ask if there was ANY test going on with this stuff, or if there is any science at all.

anyone heard of this? its going on in india and people seem to be accepting this 'drug' for c19.

why arsenic? we all know the homeopathic stuff is just water, but why the non-arsenic-in-water 'cure' ?

here's one link from a random search:

Indian Authorities Propose Use of Homeopathy to Prevent Coronavirus
 
so, what's the deal with arsenic homeopathic stuff.

a friend is asking me about it. I'm not a believer, but wanted to ask if there was ANY test going on with this stuff, or if there is any science at all.

anyone heard of this? its going on in india and people seem to be accepting this 'drug' for c19.

why arsenic? we all know the homeopathic stuff is just water, but why the non-arsenic-in-water 'cure' ?

here's one link from a random search:

Indian Authorities Propose Use of Homeopathy to Prevent Coronavirus


Arsenic . . . nope . . . not taking that bait. Too easy.

Moving on. :D
 
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