Cost to recharge Model 3

[insaneoctane]

Can someone help and critique my thinking for CA..

50kwh battery with 87% efficiency means 57.5 kWh to charge
$.20 per kWh at SC or at home
57.5 kwh * .20 = $11.5 from 0-100%.

Is 15% loss pretty realistic from 220 miles down to 187 sensible?

If so then 11.5/187 = $0.062 cents per mile. Does this seem accurate for a SR 3?

Math is sound. How does that compare to your current ICE?

 

[bmms8]

Math is sound. How does that compare to your current ICE?

Thanks for the insight. It's about half of what I'm paying now.

In CA it works out to be the same as ICE if your car averages 43-47 mpg depending on fuel price.

 

[gregincal]

Thanks for the insight. It's about half of what I'm paying now.

In CA it works out to be the same as ICE if your car averages 43-47 mpg depending on fuel price.

And anybody who actually gets that out of any ICE would also be able to easily get the full range and more out of a Model 3.

 

[bmms8]

And anybody who actually gets that out of any ICE would also be able to easily get the full range and more out of a Model 3.

Im right there with you. Just stated the info for easy comparison

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Thanks for the insight. It's about half of what I'm paying now.

In CA it works out to be the same as ICE if your car averages 43-47 mpg depending on fuel price.

Don't forget the EV fees.

 

[bmms8]

Don't forget the EV fees.

What do you mean by that? Im not a current owner so all info is appreciated

 

[chronopc]

Don't forget the EV fees.

This?

California will start charging electric vehicle fees in 2020

 

[Ken7]

So assuming an electric cost of .20kwh, what would it cost to recharge the Model 3 with the larger battery?

 

[bmms8]

So assuming an electric cost of .20kwh, what would it cost to recharge the Model 3 with the larger battery?

$17.80

 

[Ken7]

$17.80

Interestingly, in my area in N.Y., that would represent a savings of about $12 a tank of gas (assuming 25mpg & $2.41/gal). Perhaps not as much savings as some think, but it doesn't deter me in the least from waiting anxiously for the Model 3.

 

[bmms8]

Interestingly, in my area in N.Y., that would represent a savings of about $12 a tank of gas (assuming 25mpg & $2.41/gal). Perhaps not as much savings as some think, but it doesn't deter me in the least from waiting anxiously for the Model 3.

You'd save about $1 a day if you drove 12k a year. You are right its not much. electricity is high for you and gas is cheap.

 

[chronopc]

On the Tesla build page you can estimate the gas savings.

 

[bmms8]

On the Tesla build page you can estimate the gas savings.View attachment 242103

Model 3 doesn't have free charging. kWh is also different than S, much simpler and easier to do it on your own

 

[chronopc]

Model 3 doesn't have free charging. kWh is also different than S, much simpler and easier to do it on your own

I don't think Tesla takes into account super charging. The idea is that most people will charge their vehicle at home. The kWh per mile will be lower on a Model 3 than S. So your savings will be higher than what that page calculates. But it's still a decent benchmark.

 

[bmms8]

I don't think Tesla takes into account super charging. The idea is that most people will charge their vehicle at home. The kWh per mile will be lower on a Model 3 than S. So your savings will be higher than what that page calculates. But it's still a decent benchmark.

Sure but these are not good measures for everyone: Charge cost assumes national average of $0.12 per kilowatt hour. Gasoline savings assumes 21 mpg at $2.70 per gallon.

Calc on your own for best rationale

 

[CarlitoDoc]

Look at the world we live in, current gas prices are likely to rise in the future. I recall a time not to long ago when I had to pay almost $5 for premium. Point is, don't assume gas will stay cheap.

 

[chronopc]

Sure but these are not good measures for everyone: Charge cost assumes national average of $0.12 per kilowatt hour. Gasoline savings assumes 21 mpg at $2.70 per gallon.

Calc on your own for best rationale

Yes, calculating your own will get you the best estimate. But for people who just want a general idea, the calculation on the Tesla page isn't bad.

 

[chronopc]

Look at the world we live in, current gas prices are likely to rise in the future. I recall a time not to long ago when I had to pay almost $5 for premium. Point is, don't assume gas will stay cheap.

I hope you're right. The more expensive gas become the better the cost savings from driving an EV.

 

[CarlitoDoc]

I hope you're right. The more expensive gas become the better the cost savings from driving an EV.

Actually I hope I'm wrong, lots of folks cant afford EVs (for now) and a rise in gas prices would place a huge burden on their household budgets. A couple of my assistants drive over 40 miles (roundtrip) a day to come to work, on top of that they own huge SUVs.....so, you get the point.

 

[chronopc]

Actually I hope I'm wrong, lots of folks cant afford EVs (for now) and a rise in gas prices would place a huge burden on their household budgets. A couple of my assistants drive over 40 miles (roundtrip) a day to come to work, on top of that they own huge SUVs.....so, you get the point.

I know what you mean. I do think EVs will get more and more affordable as more car companies produce them. Not everyone needs a vehicle with long range or the most current technology.