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Costco is officially removing its existing EVSEs

Discussion in 'North America' started by brucedp, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. brucedp

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    Its Official, its happening, old EVSE are being yanked, trashed, with no replacements in mind.

    I spend time in many places of the EV and pih communities. I did not get wind of this bad-Costco-decision until a Leaf EV driver placed a 'checked in' @ Costco Fremont (CA) on the recargo.com EV finder site&app
    http://www.recargo.com/sites/661
    (see bottom of page)

    me4tux in a Nissan Leaf on Wednesday Aug 03, 2011
    (Didn't Charge - Site Looked Bad)
    NOTE: COSTCO has officially removed all their EVSEs. It's all gone!
    Paddles, AVCONs the whole deal. The word came down from COSTCO corporate office.


    I asked an EV driver more local than I (Tom driving a 1970's Citicar) to swing by and verify this. Yup. At both Fremont, CA (SF South Bay) and San Leandro, CA (SF East Bay) Costco's
    http://www.recargo.com/sites/745
    the old EVSE has been removed (Tom uploaded images of EVSE being gone).

    So, many Tesla EV drivers new to the EV community, might think what is the Big Deal? So what, there are or will be plenty of other EVSE installed at other areas to shop. While this might be true, the EV community and Costco go back a long ways.

    Costco History ...
    It was a Costco Corporate Manager that I witnessed speaking in front of the documenting lights and cameras of the California Air Resources Board (CARB) workshop meetings (#1 in Sacramento and #2 in Rosemead - LA area) back in 2000. He said it was a win-win for both Costco and EV drivers: easy access off highways, and plenty of ways to spend money at their stores.

    Though Costco made the same dumb mistake as many new installations at the time and put their EVSE in prime-parking-real-estate which meant those spots were always ice'd with gas-cars, and near the on-site Costco tire store which annoyed the tire jockeys to no end, this relationship between Costco and the EV community has been a good one for years.

    An EV driver could come in anytime (24 by 7, 365) and access power. Usually, EV drivers would use them during business hours and spend money in the store to help pay back for their foresight in being first to install EVSE in a huge way across California and some in Arizona.

    Now, a clueless unqualified Costco Corporate manager has made the decision to rip out and trash perfectly working old EVSE and not replace them with new EVSE anywhere on-site. All of Costco's long time good-Corporate-social-responsibility is now out the window, gone, finito. All because of a lame Corporate manager's decision.

    EV History ...
    A long time ago, GM thought they were cute, that they would be selective about who could be on a three year waiting list just to 'lease' their EV1. But that backfired on them because the people GM chose were highly educated and motivated people, who were already successful in their careers (there were no slouches there). They formed an EV political force that made some serious changes to what Automakers thought they could get away with (anyone seen Who Killed the Electric Car movie? That only touched on the many things the EV1-Club members had done).

    Once GM had ripped their EV1s from the leasee's gripped hands and crushed/chewed-up perfectly good high-end EV1s into tiny bits, these former EV1 drivers got RAV4 or Ford Ranger EVs, and remained a strong EV political force.

    Now, it is the Tesla EV driver's turn to form a political force for positive actions when needed. Minorities have always had to fight for their right to exist and be respected. There are many forces that are paid to constantly knock/diss EVs. We will always have to fight to drive Electric.

    So, here is your chance. It isn't hard or painful. Just send in your views on this matter.
    *** I suggest you use the Costco Corporate feedback form
    https://costco.egain.net/system/selfservice.controller?CONFIGURATION=1001&PARTITION_ID=1&CMD=STARTPAGE&USERTYPE=1&LANGUAGE=en&COUNTRY=us

    There is an Assoc. VP (Craig) that has been responding to comments, but his mind is closed, his ignorance and prejudice plain. He is not interested in sales and service, nor Corporate image. He lives in his own small world re-counting over and over his tiny amount of beans. He is not about to bring any of this to his upper management unless he knows the noise on this was already heard by them.

    Now, if you by-pass the feedback form for an email that only goes to Craig, it will end up deleted or not responded to.

    If we all continue to use the feedback form, more Costco hands see it, touch it, count it before it gets to where it is going ( = more noise made that will eventually get to management above Craig ).

    The fever over all the noise we make about this will make plain: they made a bad-decision, and will dislike paying the price for it.

    Whoever made this decision, will have the stain of ticking off a lot of people, and forever tainting Costco's responses, management names, and Costco Corporate reputation.

    In the strange world of unqualified managers who should not be in charge, justifying their existence is their most important goal, not customers. I saw 25 years of this in the corporate world. They did not last long in their position, but the stink of what they had done, did.

    Once Costco's pants are undone, and the hiney pimples that made this bad-decision (like Craig) are repeatedly on view for the world to see on the Internet, Costco's good-Corporate-citizen reputation will be besmirched for a long time ...

    ' Yea, Costco put them in years before everyone, but then some lame manager had them taken out and trashed without replacement. All that good work ... gone. What a bunch of idiots! '




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  2. vfx

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    Dear Costco,

    At only some stores I can fill my Prius with gasoline. At ALL stores I
    can fill my Leaf with Costco items while getting a charge.


    (Bruce, what is Craig's last name?)
     
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    Plug In America - Call for Action

    I met with Craig last week on behalf of Plug In America. He's a very reasonable guy and has thought through the issues of supporting EV charging very carefully, better than anyone else I have spoken to outside of the EV community. From that meeting, I learned that customer feedback carries a lot of weight at Costco.

    If you are a Costco member, or someone who would become a Costco member if they supported EV charging, please follow the link below to thank Costco for their past support of EVs and urge them to expand their EV charging network.

    Action Page | Plug In America
     
  4. vfx

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    Also swing by the local Costco. They READ the suggestions. My store had the box outside with no requirement to be a Costco customer to fill out a form. Anyone can give local feedback (and should!)

    Another is to use to word Costco online (facebook tweets, blogs etc.) paint the picture of wha they are doing.
     
  5. brucedp

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    {Digging through my emails ... Ah!}
    Craig Peal, Assistant VP at Costco
     
  6. vfx

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    Does anyone know of someone who currently shops at Costco and plugs in?

    The press needs a human interest story. PM me if you like.
     
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    Citing a Lack of Usage, Costco Removes E.V. Chargers - NYTimes.com

     
  9. Everytime I go to my local Costco there are always abandoned Ford EV Rangers parked in the spots, which makes it impossible for anyone to use the Avcon. Reason why there is a lack of demand is because these stations are not maintained/policed.
     
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    My gosh are they ever getting a lot of bad press on this. It was mentioned on our local TV news last night, and our local store never had chargers!
     
  11. brucedp

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    AREA COSTCO CHARGING INTO FUTURE (circa 1997)

    http://evdl.org/archive/#nabble-tt3749670|a3753452 (story link)
    Re: Who Killed the Electric Car Charging Stations?
    [Dated Material from 1997]
    AREA COSTCO CHARGING INTO FUTURE : STORE OPENS POWER STATION FOR ELECTRIC CARS.
     
  12. doug

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    It does have a "no good deed goes unpunished" vibe about it. As to why they'd choose to remove them now rather than simply upgrading is beyond me. A PR blunder or is it free publicity?
     
  13. TEG

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    It seems the September Costco Connection has them removed.
    Here is the August (ironically the "Sustainability issue") which was apparently the last with them shown:
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    I guess I got a NorCal version of the Costco Connection. Were there different regions with other EVSEs listed?
     
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    I just renewed my Costco membership after a 2-year hiatus (time got away from me). Any latest news on bringing them back?
     
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  16. EVie'sDad

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    Way to necro a five year old thread. I don't think they've done anything recently, although I stopped going there several years ago because of the persistent backup just to save a few pennies. My time is more valuable than that and if they have EV charging, they certainly aren't advertising it.
     
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  17. TaoJones

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    The new Costco in Torrance has a row of 6 or 8 L2s adjacent the warehouse. They're not free, but they do exist.

    I saw 2 of the spaces ICEd when I drove by, including a 1-ton dually whose asshat owner had put the charging cable in the grill, and no EVs charging.
     
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    Update, since we can't edit posts after an hour:

    Make that 12 charging spaces serviced by 6 pedestals, each with 2 cables.

    During today's brief visit, there were 2 ICErs and 2 Teslas total. These spots are prime for ICEing. Surprised they didn't put them over by the car wash or the gas station. Well, not that surprised.
     
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    Anyone ever been brave enough to park behind an asshat to block them in? I suppose if there's plenty of undiluted spaces it's not the end of the world
     

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