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CP0 "normal wear and tear" question

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Indpowr, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. Indpowr

    Indpowr Member

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    We transfered our deposit and got a 2015 P90D. The CPO manager sent me actual pics of the car today. As you can imagine this isn't cheap car by any means. close to 100k.

    The driver side lumbar has some leather rubbed off and the whole seam shows a lot of wear. He said they won't fix it as its under normal wear and tear. What is everyone's opunion/thoughts.

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  2. Indpowr

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    Even looks like leather stitching came loose.

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  3. mechapreneur

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    These are normal used car issues. Leather seats are really resistant to stains and smells, but show wear very fast if not cared for. You may need to see it in person and if it bothers you, look for another model with better seats. Or buy new, which is a heavy premium to avoid some worn seats.

    Alternatively, ask how much more for a new set of seats. Maybe that's the trick.
     
  4. Az_Rael

    Az_Rael Supporting Member

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    Your agreement specifies the CPO wear requirements. Mine said no damage greater than 3/8", no inner material visible, and no excessive contact wear. Some contact wear is allowed, so you would need to argue this was excessive.
     
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  5. Qbenjamin

    Qbenjamin Ballin On A Budget

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    Agreed with the poster above, I wouldn't accept that at all.
     
  6. Indpowr

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    Well not many P90D out so and has what we want. So, I will just try to get them to fix it I guess.
     
  7. RichardD

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    mine was touched they do great work. I would measure it.
     
  8. ahurst

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    I would have to say no on that. It actually looks discolored
     
  9. P85DBeast

    P85DBeast Side tEsLa

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    I would ask them to replace the entire drivers seat.
     
  10. hmmm

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    I agree that this seems a bit much... Hopefully, you won't have to go that route but there are new front next gen seats for sale on here, deeper in that thread, FYI

    NEW Tesla Model S Rear Seat Premium Black

    Also, you may want to ask if someone in the regional threads here would be willing to do a friendly PPI on your behalf, i.e. swing by the service center and have an "impartial" look at the car/take pics and videos. Just s thought.
     
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  11. Nismode

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    How many miles on the car?

    It is used, I wouldn't expect perfection by any means, but if the discount is substantial, I wouldn't be bothered by it.
     
  12. Indpowr

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    There are 0 negotiations with cpo card from Tesla
     
  13. CLLACAB

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    While you can't negotiate price, you can negotiate repairs. However, one option to consider is to have the leather refinished. The bolsters on my Porsche were pretty worn. I found a mobile leather repair guy who came to my house and refinished them. A few hundred dollars and they looked new when he was done.
     
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  14. ahurst

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    Not true. Ask for price reduction due to seat. I asked for and received a price reduction on my CPO.
     
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  15. Kenriko

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    The seat has an unacceptable amount of wear IMO. That needs to be refinished or replaced.
     
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  16. FlatSix911

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    It appears that you may be out of luck if the CPO agreement specifies specific wear is acceptable ... see below :cool:

     
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  17. Indpowr

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    .I will look at it in person. dumb to walk away from a good car over that. Rather but a new cover lmao
     
  18. ev-now

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    I was surprised how low the whole seat price was from Tesla - and there is always salvage to look out for.
     
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    A second vote for leather refinishing here. I had it done on a Mercedes right before I sold it, and was then kicking myself for not doing it earlier. It was inexpensive, the color match was great, and the feel was excellent.
     
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    I've been worried about how the seats are going to hold up over time, and it looks like not very well is the answer. Bummer. Hope you can get the seat replaced before you sign on the dotted line. I would love to get into a P100 so if your CPO doesn't work out, send me a PM.
     

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