charlesj
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Maybe you can extend their grid to your house? 2 blocks should not cost that much.I am 2 blocks from being in Roseville Electric...
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Maybe you can extend their grid to your house? 2 blocks should not cost that much.I am 2 blocks from being in Roseville Electric...
That would mean one would have to justify the expansion. I guess I need to buy a Tesla as justification and start driving it a bunch more than what I drive now.I predict that there will a NEM 4 within 2 years. NEM 3 is going to pretty much kill all new solar installs. That's pretty obvious. So, a couple years from now, the idiots at the CPUC will revise NEM 3 when they'll discover (shocker...) that new PV installs will have stopped.
For those of you who have been under NEM1/2 for a few years, you may consider adding another 1000W of solar panels before end of May 2022, as I believe that it restarts your NEM. For sure, if you're under NEM1, that will push you into NEM2 (that happened to me), and that should restart your 15 years grandfathered NEM. I haven't read the CPUC nonsense, so this is a personal opinion not based on actual facts.
I don't believe getting Powerwalls resets your NEM status.Since my solar system was installed in 2010 but my Powerwalls were done this year wondering which PTO they use to determine when the 15 year grandfather kicks in.
I could move 2 blocks away to be out of PG&E. The next city over has their own electric utility, rate is less than half PG&E... Obviously would be a bad financial move just to be out of PG&E... Maybe if the housing market crashed could be worth it.Would that mean out of state as other utilities do the same?
I do not believe it resets, when I added my second system, they went off the original install date of the first system. I was told i could keep them separate, but would have to pay to have a second meter installed. I was never given a straight answer on the costs, but from what I could find it would be about $5k. Decided easier to move both to NEM 2. I could be wrong for NEM 3, but my guess they are not going to let anyone reset.I predict that there will a NEM 4 within 2 years. NEM 3 is going to pretty much kill all new solar installs. That's pretty obvious. So, a couple years from now, the idiots at the CPUC will revise NEM 3 when they'll discover (shocker...) that new PV installs will have stopped.
For those of you who have been under NEM1/2 for a few years, you may consider adding another 1000W of solar panels before end of May 2022, as I believe that it restarts your NEM. For sure, if you're under NEM1, that will push you into NEM2 (that happened to me), and that should restart your 15 years grandfathered NEM. I haven't read the CPUC nonsense, so this is a personal opinion not based on actual facts.
I had a system installed under NEM1 and then another system installed in 2019. I was required to move to NEM2 (with the new date) unless I wanted to install another meter to keep them separate. I would think if someone upgraded a system (by more than 10%) that was previously under NEM2 today they would be under NEM2 with a new date.I do not believe it resets, when I added my second system, they went off the original install date of the first system. I was told i could keep them separate, but would have to pay to have a second meter installed. I was never given a straight answer on the costs, but from what I could find it would be about $5k. Decided easier to move both to NEM 2. I could be wrong for NEM 3, but my guess they are not going to let anyone reset.
I believe my interconnection agreement said 10% or 1 kW whichever is lower.I had a system installed under NEM1 and then another system installed in 2019. I was required to move to NEM2 (with the new date) unless I wanted to install another meter to keep them separate. I would think if someone upgraded a system (by more than 10%) that was previously under NEM2 today they would be under NEM2 with a new date.
You're right (I misremembered), but expanding your solar does. I got my original PV under NEM 1 back in 2014, and stayed on it after I got my powerwalls last year. I then expanded my solar in early 2021 and moved to TOU-C (NEM2).I don't believe getting Powerwalls resets your NEM status.
Just wait for NEM 4, which is bound to happenI do not believe it resets, when I added my second system, they went off the original install date of the first system. I was told i could keep them separate, but would have to pay to have a second meter installed. I was never given a straight answer on the costs, but from what I could find it would be about $5k. Decided easier to move both to NEM 2. I could be wrong for NEM 3, but my guess they are not going to let anyone reset.
They did make me go from E6 to TOUC and from NEM 1 to 2I don't believe getting Powerwalls resets your NEM status.
Whichever is Greater. I have a 4.3kW system and I can add 1.0kW CEC-AC rating to my system and still remain in NEM 1. If it was the Lesser I would only be able to add 430W.I believe my interconnection agreement said 10% or 1 kW whichever is lower.
Unfortunately for me I have no choice. We have no 220/240v outlets anywhere in the house. I would have to pay to upgrade all my electrical, including the panel, double or triple my solar panels (for which I have no more roof space unless I put them on the north side), add one or two more batteries, replace all my appliances (including the furnace). Those costs alone are not worth me saving $20/month on gas (yes, our gas is really cheap.)The proposed export & import tariffs are $0.06 vs $0.25. So you're still better off using energy than exporting it. Why add another bill? One of the best things I did was disconnect my gas service. Saves me $14/mo just in a service fees. Probably more in CA.
the powerwalls reset my true upI don't believe getting Powerwalls resets your NEM status.
I think Powerwalls reset your true-up because they put you in the paired storage billing structure. But I'm pretty sure it didn't reset my NEM status (although it would be a good thing for me if my NEM date was reset to a later date).the powerwalls reset my true up
You have no issue with non-solar footing your bill....
The amount of money I spent to go to 99% electric is nuts! If I had knows what I know now, I should not have done either of these! I did what was suggested, and now screwed. All these folks that have said need to go total electric in the house, and cars, well, what are they saying now? Pretty quiet.
I actually just got solar literally a month or two ago and others, have had it for 10+ years? I've never felt the "rich" solar folks were taking advantage of me for footing their bill so NO, you're wrong on that front.
The plan is just messed up based how it's changed and again, will be the death of new solar projects in California. Look at other states with drasitic NEM changes and solar simply dies off.
That's clearly what all the IOU's want. It's not about anything else. If they could bottle air and charge you for it, they would.
You're even more screwed if this passes and they add your 5x PWs in. Even Zabe would get hit with his PWs.
Let's see, your 30kW and 5 powerwalls = 97.5 * $8 = $780/month * 12 = $9360/year just for the benefit of having solar. This is why this proposal is criminal. I don't know what your power bill was before, but if it wasn't $780/month, you'd have a lot more $$ around.
You seem to have missed the earlier comment that the proposed decision clarifies that the Grid Participation Charge is only accessed on the PV installation:Yep, I've been thinking the failure of defining a "system" in the rulemaking language opens the door for this interpretation.
The Grid Participation Charge is $8 per kilowatt (kW) of solar installed per month. Page 193 under Bill Charges.